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From: Eric Grosse <ehg@research.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] on TCP vs IL
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011121025750.90E70199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

yet another perspective from Bell Labs experience:

For the reasons Presotto mentioned regarding loss of back-to-back packets,
when at home and connecting to our IL-only fileserver, I use TCP to import
/ from a cpu server, thus using IL just across the machine room.  The local
TCP performance is good enough that I won't care if IL goes away someday.
On the other hand, there's no immediate push to get rid of it;  we support
IL in our new NAT code.

We have an initial implementation of IPv6 in Plan 9, thanks mainly to the
efforts of Lakshman Yagati.  It doesn't do IPsec yet---we prefer the easier
network administration of SSL/TLS, thank you---but does come with v4/v6
NAPT-PT, hence is viable to adopt even in otherwise IPv4-only networks.

These decisions are all based on the personal taste of the technical
people doing the work.  "smoky back rooms" are not our style.

Eric


             reply	other threads:[~2001-11-21  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-21  2:57 Eric Grosse [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-26 16:53 Russ Cox
2001-11-21 19:27 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-21 20:06 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-21 14:53 George Michaelson
     [not found] <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2001-11-21  1:07 ` Russ Cox
2001-11-21  1:21   ` George Michaelson
2001-11-21 20:01   ` Dan Cross
2001-11-22  2:21     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-11-22 22:17     ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-23 10:58       ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found] <dhog@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2001-11-21  0:12 ` David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-21  0:21   ` George Michaelson
2001-11-22  9:57   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-23  9:34     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-11-26 10:00       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-26 15:21         ` Douglas A. Gwyn

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