From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: presotto@closedmind.org To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Private Namespaces for Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-ermzoobcxnegcsnknzronisztr" Message-Id: <20011121145219.5E53D199E7@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:52:17 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 26b4107e-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-ermzoobcxnegcsnknzronisztr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit server = PentiumII/Xeon 400 client = PentiumPro 199 network = 100 mbs ether test = import {tcp|il}!olive / /tmp cd /tmp/386/bin; cat * > /dev/null the remote fs protocol is 9P2000 I did a few runs to warm up the cache on the server and 7 runs each for IL and TCP interleaved. The timings came out just about the same for Il and TCP, 29.17 and 29.38 secs respectively. The difference was well within the error bars. --upas-ermzoobcxnegcsnknzronisztr Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by plan9; Tue Nov 20 18:41:49 EST 2001 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.20.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 04B4519A8A; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:41:38 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 39CBC19A47 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21220 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:40:47 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Cross Received: (from cross@localhost) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA18771; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:40:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111202340.SAA18771@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Private Namespaces for Linux Newsgroups: comp.os.plan9 In-Reply-To: <20011120220809.8D66B199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu> Organization: Mememememememmeme Cc: Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Help: List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:40:47 -0500 (EST) In article <20011120220809.8D66B199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu> you write: >OK, OK, here's why IL is deprecated: > >1. It doesn't cope well with long networks (it hasn't >had the chance to be tuned to the same degree as TCP). > >2. It's a headache to maintain. > >3. The new protocol (9P2000) doesn't depend on record >boundaries being preserved; there is basically no dependence >on IL in the new system other than the current fileserver >implementation, which is about to be overhauled (RSN!). Yes, but isn't il a lot more efficient on the wire than TCP, particularly over mostly reliable local area networks? TCP has a lot of baggage to deal with high loss, high latency, networks with moderate bandwidth at the expense of higher bandwidth, lower latency, low loss networks; in other words, it doesn't cope well with short networks. :-) - Dan C. --upas-ermzoobcxnegcsnknzronisztr--