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From: forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Nagle algorithm
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:58:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011123115816.4863819A7E@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

>>Well, this is overstated.  The Nagle algorithm (which we should be
>>calling "slow start") is actually hugely important on the net as a

rfc1122 correctly distinguishes `slow start' (by Van Jacobsen), which
again seems a reasonable responsibility for TCP/IP, from Nagle's algorithm
for coalescing short segments, which is the one that seems ill-advised
to me, however effective in benchmarks.  the same section of the rfc
discusses avoiding silly windows which also seems fine
to me, and perhaps that was due to Nagle too; i haven't checked
a copy of the original paper.  (mind you, checking the original is quite often
sensible because you discover that some idea has taken on
a life of its own out of the original context.)

i do find that quite a lot of this smacks of trying to
compensate for inadequate data provided by the protocol or the network.


             reply	other threads:[~2001-11-23 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-23 11:58 forsyth [this message]
2001-11-26 11:07 ` Sean M. Doran
2001-11-26 19:22   ` Dan Cross
2001-11-27 10:16     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-27 18:55       ` Dan Cross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-29 17:33 jmk
2001-11-27 11:28 forsyth
2001-11-27 11:00 forsyth
2001-11-27  5:31 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-26 12:07 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2001-11-26 11:52 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2001-11-26 11:23 Sean M. Doran
2001-11-26 19:28 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-27  8:57   ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-27 14:39     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-27 19:56       ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-27 22:26         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 16:55           ` Matt
2001-11-27 10:16   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-27 18:59     ` Dan Cross
2001-11-26 11:09 nigel
2001-11-24 10:48 forsyth
     [not found] <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2001-11-24  5:32 ` Russ Cox
2001-11-24 20:04   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-11-24  3:26 Scott Schwartz
2001-11-23  9:44 forsyth
2001-11-26  9:59 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-22 13:24 forsyth
2001-11-22 13:29 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-23  9:34 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-26 19:13   ` Dan Cross
2001-11-21 23:38 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-21 23:59 ` Andrew Simmons
2001-11-22  9:57   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-21 23:20 Andrew Simmons
2001-11-26 10:57 ` Sean M. Doran
2001-11-26 19:11   ` Dan Cross

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