* [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5?
@ 2005-04-20 22:01 Jack Johnson
2005-04-21 0:58 ` Kenji Okamoto
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Jack Johnson @ 2005-04-20 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 09:00:56AM -0600, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:
>
> does qemu run on windows at this point?
Aw, heck.
At the expense of being redundant, yes, QEMU does run on Windows. I
haven't built the binary, but there are a lot of projects floating
various versions around.
I grabbed the one from the latest ReactOS release, which is version
0.6.2 but I'm not sure if all the earlier patches posted here were
applied to it. I had success:
http://www.nas.com/~fragment/qemu.jpg
The odd black box in the upper left-hand corner disappears as soon as
the cursor is active. Networking looks like it's going to work fine,
but I think the Windows version of QEMU only supports their user-mode
networking, so no virtual auth or CPU servers out there.
It might be interesting to get QEMU to boot a Plan 9 floppy and pull
the filesystem off a fileserver. I don't know if this would have any
advantage over drawterm, other than testing.
Definitely not a chick magnet kind of thing.
-Jack
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* Re: [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? 2005-04-20 22:01 [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? Jack Johnson @ 2005-04-21 0:58 ` Kenji Okamoto 2005-04-21 4:11 ` Jack Johnson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Kenji Okamoto @ 2005-04-21 0:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > It might be interesting to get QEMU to boot a Plan 9 floppy and pull > the filesystem off a fileserver. I don't know if this would have any > advantage over drawterm, other than testing. I'm not a qemu user yet. The drawterm uses devices of CPU server, and qemu uses local devices (if it can use them☺), so it may be good for someone wants to use one, such as audio device if possible. Would you please give us your more detailed experience with Windows version qemu? Is it easy to install them, how much of diskspace is neccessary etc. Kenji ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? 2005-04-21 0:58 ` Kenji Okamoto @ 2005-04-21 4:11 ` Jack Johnson 2005-04-21 12:43 ` [9fans] using qemu Robert Raschke 2005-04-21 13:04 ` [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? Russ Cox 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Jack Johnson @ 2005-04-21 4:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 4/20/05, Kenji Okamoto <okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> wrote: > Would you please give us your more detailed experience with Windows > version qemu? Is it easy to install them, how much of diskspace is > neccessary etc. QEMU has only a handful of necessary files, and they're all relatively small: -rw-r----- 1 jack jack 305152 Feb 23 14:58 SDL.dll -rw-r----- 1 jack jack 65536 Feb 23 14:58 bios.bin -rw-r----- 1 jack jack 781824 Feb 23 14:58 qemu.exe -rw-r----- 1 jack jack 32768 Feb 23 14:58 vgabios-cirrus.bin -rw-r----- 1 jack jack 32768 Feb 23 14:58 vgabios.bin These are all from the latest ReactOS version, which (zipped) weighs in at around 10MB, because it includes a batch file and a pre-configured disk image. For my brief test, I just downloaded the latest Plan 9 ISO, uncompressed it in the QEMU folder and changed the batch file to: qemu -cdrom plan9.iso -boot d -m 54 -enable-audio -L . c.img To be honest, I can't recall what the -L option does and I didn't test the audio, and 54 MB of RAM is a little lean, but it was easily enough to boot. I've found that QEMU often errors out if the guest OS isn't given a hard drive image, possibly from drive probe failure, but the drive size does not need to be large if you'll be running live from CD or floppy. I have found that what should be the easiest part -- creating a file for the drive -- is not always easy under Windows, and often find myself resorting to the Cygwin tools to accomplish this. I should probably try 9pm. I prefer using QEMU under Linux, if only to get direct access to an entire drive (by using /dev/hdx as the C drive target) and because you can configure a virtual network adapter to have a server running in the virtual machine. I have found some guest OSes have trouble determining the drive geometry under QEMU and you end up having to do something like 'qemu -hdachs 8367,16,63 c.img' to get everything working. They also seem to tweak the command line options from version to version, so you may find other options that either change or improve behavior under Windows. On my machine at work Plan 9 booted surprisingly fast. If you know of a handy benchmark, I'd be happy to try it out and post the results. On the flip side, I know we often talk/joke about porting Web browsers, etc. to Plan 9 and I wonder if it wouldn't be easier to port QEMU and then run something like Windows XP Embedded (if it's supported) or Linux in a VM for those few apps you can't live without (or port). For me, that app is currently the Citrix client, so I'm stuck with some officially supported OS for a while (or do the VNC hop like everyone else does). Charon supports Gmail now, so I'm getting closer.... -Jack ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 4:11 ` Jack Johnson @ 2005-04-21 12:43 ` Robert Raschke 2005-04-21 12:47 ` Devon H. O'Dell 2005-04-21 13:06 ` Russ Cox 2005-04-21 13:04 ` [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? Russ Cox 1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Robert Raschke @ 2005-04-21 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Hi, I am trying out Qemu and can't figure out how to get Plan 9 to find the CD or HD: qemu.exe -L . -m 128 -hda p9.img -cdrom plan9.iso -boot d where p9.img is a 1GB HD image I created, and plan9.iso is the CD image I just downloaded from the Labs. I now just get: Bochs BIOS, 1 cpu, $Revision: 1.110 $ $Date: 2004/05/31 13:11:27 $ ata0 master: QEMU HARDDISK ATA-2 Hard-Disk (1024 MBytes) ata0 slave: Unknown Device ata1 master: QEMU CD-ROM ATAPI-4 CD_Rom/DVD-Rom ata0 slave: Unknown Device Booting from CD-Rom... PBS...Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0000 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=f000 di=fff0 ebx=95e3 esi=-f0010 Boot devices: fd0 boot from: I'm assuming that 9load didn't manage to come to grips with the HD and CD somehow. But how can I sort that out? Is there a way I can mount the iso image in some kind of visible form under WinXP? Thanks for any pointers, Robby ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 12:43 ` [9fans] using qemu Robert Raschke @ 2005-04-21 12:47 ` Devon H. O'Dell 2005-04-21 13:06 ` Russ Cox 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Devon H. O'Dell @ 2005-04-21 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 576 bytes --] On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:43:21PM +0100, Robert Raschke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm assuming that 9load didn't manage to come to grips with the HD and > CD somehow. But how can I sort that out? Is there a way I can mount > the iso image in some kind of visible form under WinXP? `Daemon Tools' is a software package that allows you to mount CD and DVD images in both iso, bin/cue and whatever other popular formats exist as virtual drives in Windows. It's the first hit for the google search of the software title :) > Thanks for any pointers, > Robby --Devon [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 194 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 12:43 ` [9fans] using qemu Robert Raschke 2005-04-21 12:47 ` Devon H. O'Dell @ 2005-04-21 13:06 ` Russ Cox 2005-04-21 13:20 ` Robert Raschke 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2005-04-21 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs It matters where you get your qemu.exe from. There was a change to qemu in December to better simulate ATA drives, specifically to help Plan 9. Is this with the ReactOS qemu.exe (which others say works) or another one that you found? Russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 13:06 ` Russ Cox @ 2005-04-21 13:20 ` Robert Raschke 2005-04-21 14:29 ` David Leimbach 2005-04-21 21:09 ` Jack Johnson 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Robert Raschke @ 2005-04-21 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Hi, I downloaded qemu from freeoszoo.org. There is an image file for ReactOS on that page, but somehow I feel that is not what you mean. Should I get the bleeding edge daily build instead of v0.6.1? I'll give that a try. I managed to get a CD mount thingy from MS itself: winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21 (for example via http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips620.html) Ta, Robby ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 13:20 ` Robert Raschke @ 2005-04-21 14:29 ` David Leimbach 2005-04-25 15:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen 2005-04-21 21:09 ` Jack Johnson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: David Leimbach @ 2005-04-21 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs If you are running on linux I suggest the QEMU CVS and the KQEMU accelerator also. On 4/21/05, Robert Raschke <rrplan9@tombob.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded qemu from freeoszoo.org. There is an image file for > ReactOS on that page, but somehow I feel that is not what you mean. > Should I get the bleeding edge daily build instead of v0.6.1? I'll > give that a try. > > I managed to get a CD mount thingy from MS itself: > winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21 (for example via > http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips620.html) > > Ta, > Robby > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 14:29 ` David Leimbach @ 2005-04-25 15:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen 2005-04-25 15:36 ` Russ Cox 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Eric Van Hensbergen @ 2005-04-25 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs I was playing around with using Qemu and Plan 9 this weekend -- things actually seemed quite snappy and everything worked great when I booted from the CDROM. However, if I did an install to a disk and then tried to boot, I'd see the Initial boot messages: Booting from Hard Disk.... MBR...PBS...Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0000 45MHz Pentium II loop 2839 apm ax=f000 ... dev A0 port 1F0 ... dev A0 port 170 ... and then it just seems to hang (although qemu is still eating up all my CPU ;) Did I do something wrong? Do we have a wiki entry with step-by-step on using qemu (I looked quickly but didn't see one, is it buried somewhere)? Should we? -eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-25 15:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen @ 2005-04-25 15:36 ` Russ Cox [not found] ` <a4e6962a05042508507d15acf9@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2005-04-25 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric Van Hensbergen, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Did you build from CVS? Did you install from a recent CDROM? It looks like your 9load is old. You can work around this by giving qemu a CDROM image to present in the drive. On 4/25/05, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com> wrote: > I was playing around with using Qemu and Plan 9 this weekend -- things > actually seemed quite snappy and everything worked great when I booted > from the CDROM. However, if I did an install to a disk and then tried > to boot, I'd see the Initial boot messages: > > Booting from Hard Disk.... > MBR...PBS...Plan 9 from Bell Labs > ELCR: 0000 > 45MHz Pentium II loop 2839 > apm ax=f000 ... > dev A0 port 1F0 ... > dev A0 port 170 ... > > and then it just seems to hang (although qemu is still eating up all my CPU ;) > > Did I do something wrong? Do we have a wiki entry with step-by-step > on using qemu (I looked quickly but didn't see one, is it buried > somewhere)? Should we? > > -eric > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [9fans] using qemu [not found] ` <ee9e417a050425090238883796@mail.gmail.com> @ 2005-04-25 16:07 ` Eric Van Hensbergen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Eric Van Hensbergen @ 2005-04-25 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Russ Cox; +Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Thanks Russ... On 4/25/05, Russ Cox <russcox@gmail.com> wrote: > argh. the bloody cd is a month old. the rebuild job isn't > working. pull from sources and then cp /386/9load /n/9fat/9load > and things should get better. > > On 4/25/05, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 4/25/05, Russ Cox <russcox@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Did you build from CVS? Did you install from a recent CDROM? > > > It looks like your 9load is old. You can work around this by > > > giving qemu a CDROM image to present in the drive. > > > > > > > It's qemu from CVS, I used a CDROM from about 4 days ago. Whenever I > > boot with the cdrom image and the hard-drive image, 9LOAD comes from > > the hard drive but never sees the hard-drive boot partitions, so it > > boots the cdrom. When I boot from the cdrom, I can mount sdC0/9fat - > > and it has the right bits (kernel, plan9.ini, etc.) > > > > -eric > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] using qemu 2005-04-21 13:20 ` Robert Raschke 2005-04-21 14:29 ` David Leimbach @ 2005-04-21 21:09 ` Jack Johnson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Jack Johnson @ 2005-04-21 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 4/21/05, Robert Raschke <rrplan9@tombob.com> wrote: > I downloaded qemu from freeoszoo.org. There is an image file for > ReactOS on that page, but somehow I feel that is not what you mean. > Should I get the bleeding edge daily build instead of v0.6.1? I'll > give that a try. Try this: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/reactos/reactos0.2.6-REL-qemu.zip?download -Jack ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? 2005-04-21 4:11 ` Jack Johnson 2005-04-21 12:43 ` [9fans] using qemu Robert Raschke @ 2005-04-21 13:04 ` Russ Cox 2005-04-21 13:28 ` C H Forsyth 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2005-04-21 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Johnson, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > To be honest, I can't recall what the -L option does and I didn't test > the audio, and 54 MB of RAM is a little lean, but it was easily enough > to boot. I've found that QEMU often errors out if the guest OS isn't > given a hard drive image, possibly from drive probe failure, but the > drive size does not need to be large if you'll be running live from CD > or floppy. The need for a disk image might be fixed. > the virtual machine. I have found some guest OSes have trouble > determining the drive geometry under QEMU and you end up having to do > something like 'qemu -hdachs 8367,16,63 c.img' to get everything > working. They also seem to tweak the command line options from > version to version, so you may find other options that either change > or improve behavior under Windows. Plan 9 doesn't need -hdachs, for what it's worth. > Charon supports Gmail now, so I'm getting closer.... It does !?!? In full mode or in Gmail's "stupid web browser" mode? Russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? 2005-04-21 13:04 ` [9fans] slightly ot: how can I get vmware 4.5? Russ Cox @ 2005-04-21 13:28 ` C H Forsyth 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: C H Forsyth @ 2005-04-21 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: russcox, 9fans currently just `stupid web browser' mode. i don't yet know what it expects for the full mode. something awful, probably. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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