From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt H To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Getting started in Plan9 - help Message-Id: <20020120210140.349ee688.matt@proweb.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <000e01c1a1ed$88a01c40$58a709ca@rosh> References: <000e01c1a1ed$88a01c40$58a709ca@rosh> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:01:40 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3f3c0e12-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Hi, here's my set of slightly flippant answers > - How can I read a couple of html docs in Plan9 ? install inferno and use the netscape 3 hybrid Charon I bet you can't wait :) Web browsing it's plan9's end user pitfall. No browser, not even text only (unless you count downloading & stripping the html tags text only) > - How can I find/search for a file in Plan9 ? the usual find /|grep xxx > does not exist here, what is the equivalent ? du I think is your best bet it's better still to learn where everything is :) luckily there aren't 5 different directories where programs hide (well there can be but...) all the executables show themselves in /bin which is a union of the directories where executables live if you see what I mean. There's aren't that many, have a look through them all, you'll remember easily enough. > - Why doesnt/Can rc have autocomplete and filename completion as in > bash ? This has become so neccessary. yes, well, you see plan9 is more mouse driven. eventually you'll probably end up with Acme as much your "shell" as anything, and you'll find auto complete is unneccessary. But you're right, it is a nice feature of the bash shell but then there are soooo many goddam directories on a Linux/FreeBSD box and auto complete is Bash's way of trying to alleviate the pain. If you miss it too much I'm sure you could just write a shell script to monitor /dev/cons for tabs, and echo the stuff into /dev/cons. Personally, I do prefer having the screen as free form is plan9's is. The shell is more than the commands you can type, it's where you can type them. > - Why cant the left/right arrow keys+home+end keys move the cursor, > it is really difficult to edit something by placing the cursor there > with the mouse. That's what I said and I still get the urge to say it out loud. They told me I'd get used to it and you know what, I haven't. I'd even settle for Ctrl-J. But when I'm sat at a different terminal I still end up saying "I wish I was using Acme". > - Unless is it part of a grander plan (no pun intended), can we move > the process interrupt key from Del to something else and have the > conventional functionality of del back ? It depends who's conventions. > - Why arent there more applications and more developers interested > in developing for plan9 ? file name completion > This is a lesson that could learned from the Win32's, > if you want the OS to grow, you have to get people comfortable with > it very fast. I think we can make that. After ten years of Windows I'm not sure people are comfortable with it. It's clunky, crashes without explanation, brittle to end user fiddling, repeatedly exposes remote root exploits, is expensive, closed source. I need not go on. > One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, > One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. > (Lord of the Rings) Arntcha sick of those mobiles phones yet? Matt