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From: Steve Kilbane <steve@whitecrow.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Cc: steve@localhost.localdomain
Subject: Re: [9fans] code complexity
Date: Tue,  5 Feb 2002 23:06:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200202052306.XAA27110@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from "david presotto" <presotto@closedmind.org>  of "Tue, 05 Feb 2002 12:20:51 EST." <003d01c1ae69$767283e0$1765c0d0@cc583254b>

I agree with presotto in that the real world induces complexity, but
for a slightly different reason. Plan 9 is an example of a system
where a problem can be solved at the "right" place, but most programmers
don't have that luxury. They're playing in a very small corner of the
field, and no matter how they complain, the rest of the field is not
going to shift itself around to accommodate them. It doesn't matter that
the change might produce a better system, because there's too much
inertia, and too much already invested in the status quo. So programmers
bung on their own little bit that solves their current problem, and move
on.

None of which excuses the ones who write isolated code and still make it
complex.

Code bloat, on the other hand, has another driving factor: it's often
easier for someone to write something from scratch than learn their system
well enough to realise that there's something already there that does it.
That's just laziness.

steve




  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-05 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-05 16:34 Russ Cox
2002-02-05 16:39 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-05 16:42   ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-02-05 17:20     ` david presotto
2002-02-05 23:06       ` Steve Kilbane [this message]
2002-02-05 20:24 ` philw
2002-02-06  1:01   ` ozan s yigit
2002-02-05 22:28 ` Dan Cross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06  0:10 [9fans] XP (was: code complexity) geoff
2002-02-06  0:29 ` [9fans] code complexity George Michaelson
2002-02-06 10:47   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-06 20:49     ` Andrew Simmons
2002-02-05 16:41 Russ Cox
2002-02-05 14:24 Richard Uhtenwoldt
2002-02-05 14:47 ` Matt H

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