From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] samuel From: Geoff Collyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020311001522.82F2B19992@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:15:12 -0800 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 63391d46-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 sam provides more than a GUI; the other face of its user interface is a command language in which composition from simpler commands provides considerable power. I wasn't aware that Limbo existed in the '70s; can you cite a reference? One could argue that Java is merely Limbo done badly and with lots of complex yet unhelpful class libraries piled on. And who cares if we're using languages and tools from the '70s? The good ones survive. Or are we just not hep enough? Following fashion has never interested me. > But, if you insist on building systems which require an IQ of more > than 100 to operate, then by definition you are excluding more than > 1/2 of the world's population from using the system. This is a stunning statement. If we prefer systems that haven't been dumbed-down, we're horrible elitist scum. Given the plentiful supply of stupidity on this planet, I'll take the systems that require an IQ above room temperature to understand and use. There are lots of other existing systems for the bottom half of the IQ curve to use.