From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] long long warning From: forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-sshibkepawjblefvrmfsjlmbev" Message-Id: <20020320105826.E209F19A6B@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:55:29 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6aa72dd4-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-sshibkepawjblefvrmfsjlmbev Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, of course that's supposed to be so [free in the sense of libero not gratuito], and is intended to be so, but despite FSF's best efforts to propagate that view, there still seems to be confusion about it. there was recently a note on the free-software-business list that included a reference to an interview with Sean Gordon http://www.linuxandmain.com/essay/sgordon.html and perhaps his experience isn't unique. i suppose they could have called themselves The Liberal Software Foundation, but then that wouldn't work: the Plan 9 licence is a liberal one, but doesn't match the ideology demanded, which probably isn't. i'm think i'm for Reasonable Software myself, in general. --upas-sshibkepawjblefvrmfsjlmbev Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu> Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for forsyth@caldo.demon.co.uk id 1016618297:10:28478:17; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:58:17 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1104130; 20 Mar 2002 9:58 GMT Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (psuvax1.cse.psu.edu [130.203.30.6]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7477C19A80; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 04:58:10 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from mercury.bath.ac.uk (mercury.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.81]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A86FA19A65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 04:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from news by mercury.bath.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 16ncdW-0006YQ-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:44:02 +0000 Received: from GATEWAY by bath.ac.uk with netnews for 9fans@cse.psu.edu (9fans@cse.psu.edu) To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: <87wuw8b1qb.fsf@becket.becket.net> Organization: University of California, Irvine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: Subject: Re: [9fans] long long warning Sender: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-admin@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu List-Help: List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Archive: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:43:25 GMT pb@research.bell-labs.com (Peter Bosch) writes: > > Well, I don't support non-free systems anymore (where "free" has the > > definition used by the FSF or the Debian Project). > > There is no such thing as a free lunch. Ah, but there is such a thing as a libre lunch. --upas-sshibkepawjblefvrmfsjlmbev--