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From: nigel@9fs.org
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] text editor
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:49:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020426095103.290DC1999B@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

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Sorry, Plan 9 does not use cursor keys in editing, not even for
left/right.  This is a design decision.  Plan 9 use the mouse as it's
main form of interaction.  The keyboard, you might say, is an
necessary evil for the entry of characters, but not much else.
Everything in acme is done using the mouse apart for text entry (and
acme does everything).

To recap the logic (it has been repeated many times in the archives),
once you switch to mouse centric operation, you become faster, not
slower.  It may be counterintuitive, but I believe it has been shown
by research, not that I can quote anything.  You have to move your
hands to get to the cursor keys, so it's a whole bunch better if your
default position is holding the mouse as it does lots of things
besides positioning the cursor.

We've all been keyboard centric at one time in our lives, and I think
I speak for the vast majority of the list when I say that we don't
miss cursor keys.  At all.  In fact, quite a few people buy keyboards
without cursor keys, function keys, windows keys, number pads and
reclaim a good square foot of their desk.

So, stick with it, persevere, and you'll hopefully feel the benefit.

Nigel


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From: Andrew Stitt <astitt@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] text editor
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:47:09 GMT
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.1020425205816.12869A-100000@teach.ic.ucsc.edu>

hey, Im just getting into plan 9, and Im in desperate need of a text
editor that can deal with a keyboard intensive user, I dont like having to
reach over and touch my mouse everytime i want to move the cursor, it
seems as if any keyboard arrow keys just effect the overall window, not
the cursor address. Ive tried to read up on acme and sam and I dont see
anything that really addresses this. Are there keyboard commands to move
the cursor around or am i stuck having to fondle my mouse everytime i want
to move my cursor back two characters? thanks
     Andrew/A Frayed Knot

             reply	other threads:[~2002-04-26  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-26  9:49 nigel [this message]
2002-04-26 10:21 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-26 11:38   ` Michael Grunditz
2002-04-26 20:35   ` Dan Cross
2002-04-29  9:40     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-04-30 11:14       ` [9fans] serial mouse support Andrey S. Kukhar
2002-04-29  9:36 ` [9fans] text editor Andrew Stitt
2002-04-29 15:58   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-29  9:36 Andrew Simmons
2002-04-26 17:31 Russ Cox
2002-04-26 14:52 anothy
2002-04-26 16:59 ` peter huang
2002-04-26 14:10 Russ Cox
2002-04-26 10:27 ` Sam Hopkins
2002-04-29  9:40 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-04-26 13:40 forsyth
2002-04-26 13:27 presotto
2002-04-26 12:46 bwc
2002-04-26 16:33 ` mcguire
2002-04-30  1:54   ` chad
2002-04-26 12:40 nigel
2002-04-26 11:41 forsyth
2002-04-26 11:39 rog
2002-04-26 11:45 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-04-26 10:45 nigel
2002-04-26 11:04 ` Alexander Viro
2002-04-26 10:22 nigel
2002-04-26 11:15 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-04-26 11:25   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-04-26 16:06   ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-04-26 10:11 rog
2002-04-26 23:30 ` Micah Stetson
2002-04-26  8:47 Andrew Stitt

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