From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: forsyth@vitanuova.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Emacs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020610101000.F2D4219991@mail.cse.psu.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:10:08 +0100 Topicbox-Message-UUID: a7cc3ace-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 sam is by no means `like notepad'. i've used both. sam is the older of the two visual editors, and the newer one, acme, includes the more powerful features of sam (notably structural regular expressions and the editing command structure) but is an environment (with a significant nod to Oberon) that is closer in functionality to emacs but with a different approach to integrating new functions such as multi-file editing, mail, news, wiki, and other things. it would be helpful if there were a more tutorial introduction to acme i suppose, but have a look at the paper, not just the manual page. similarly, what can be done with the Edit verb is probably not by any means obvious, so it's not surprising you concluded as you did.