actually, if you're planning on using ramfs, there's not much point, as you can usually use the attachment directly (noting that upas/fs will accept any file extension on "body"). at least that way you avoid using up extra memory. you can plumb the attachments directly too (just as long as upas/fs was started before the plumber); mind you, it's a bit strange that you can't right click on /mail/fs/mbox/23/1/body.gif inside the mail message itself, but you can if you copy and paste that text into somewhere else in acme. i think that's because upas/fs is interpreting b3 clicks itself, and being a little too clever about it. cheers, rog.