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From: Axel Belinfante <Axel.Belinfante@cs.utwente.nl>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] u9fs
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:54:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200301312254.h0VMsF305363@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:45:13 -0500." <6c298cdff8cac479c72d9fb081f33a52@plan9.bell-labs.com>

> If I wanted to use a different key I could use, for example,
> 
> 	mount -k 'user=glenda' /srv/sources /n/sources
> 	cpu -k 'user=glenda' -h sources
Thanks, I was not aware of this -k feature.

> really little point.  If you're using .rhosts authentication,
> then there's nothing stopping me from making my own
> connection to the u9fs service (with aux/9pcon or more
> usefully with a 9P filter in front of the kernel) and sending
> whatever attach name I want.  There's no authentication
> here, and I don't want to start pretending there is.

I know, but this rhost auth case is not an issue,
for me, here, because I don't intend to use it any longer.
This all started because I wanted to move
from rhost auth to now available p9any auth.
So, the .u9fs was meant as 'sort of' equivalent
(wrt opt-in/opt-out) to .rhosts in the case of
p9any/p9sk1 authentication, for the -luser attach hack.
With p9any auth, the plan 9 user can not just be anyone,
but is authenticated, right?

> It is worth noting, though, that if your Plan 9 system is not listed
> in /etc/rhosts.equiv, then users can opt in or out by editing
> their .rhosts files already.  So you really don't need a .u9fs file.

Been there, used that - that is what I depended on so far.

However, I wanted to:
 - get rid of rhosts authentication
   (the u9fs source advices against it, I don't feel safe;
	main thing I dislike about it is that a user using
	it to opt-in for u9fs autonagically also opts-in
	for rsh etc., which is more than wanted/needed)
 - instead, use newly available p9any/p9sk1 authentication
   (by which I loose the opt-in/out feature of rhost
	with plan 9 system not in host.equiv)
 - have flexibility by -luser attach name
   (now I need opt-in/out for the users)

That's why I came up with .u9fs -- 
opt-in/out at the unix side to complement
p9any authentication, giving me something
functionally similar to rhosts with empty hosts.equiv,
but using Plan 9 authentication, resulting in something
stronger than rhosts auth, I hope, something no longer
also allowing rsh,rlogin, at least mot from the plan 9
systen.

Axel.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-31 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-28 15:50 Russ Cox
2003-01-31 15:35 ` Axel Belinfante
2003-01-31 16:07   ` Nigel Roles
2003-01-31 16:39     ` Russ Cox
2003-01-31 18:23       ` Axel Belinfante
2003-01-31 18:45         ` Russ Cox
2003-01-31 22:54           ` Axel Belinfante [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-30 11:36 arisawa
2008-03-30 12:25 ` arisawa
2003-10-09 14:24 [9fans] U9FS Lucio De Re
2003-02-18 16:38 [9fans] u9fs Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-18 16:42 ` Russ Cox
2003-02-18 17:12   ` Ronald G. Minnich
2003-02-18 17:18     ` Russ Cox
2003-02-18 16:49 ` nigel
2002-12-09  8:09 Russ Cox
2002-12-09  7:51 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2002-12-05 17:49 David Swasey
2002-05-05 23:24 [9fans] Bug report Russ Cox
2002-05-05 23:33 ` arisawa
2002-05-05 23:39   ` [9fans] u9fs arisawa
2002-03-24  6:42 Russ Cox
2002-03-23 18:45 nigel
2002-03-23 18:12 Russ Cox
2002-03-24  5:44 ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-03-26 10:45 ` Christopher Nielsen
2002-03-23 10:43 nigel
2002-03-22 13:42 Jean Mehat
2002-03-21 16:19 Russ Cox
2002-03-23  0:40 ` Christopher Nielsen
2002-03-20 22:00 forsyth
2002-03-20 19:31 Russ Cox
2002-03-20 19:31 markp
2002-03-20 19:05 Russ Cox
2002-03-20 19:42 ` skipt
2002-03-21 11:02 ` Peter Canning
2002-03-20 18:40 markp
2002-03-20  9:27 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-03-20  7:10 Geoff Collyer
2002-03-20  7:23 ` Lucio De Re
2002-03-20  8:10 ` Dean Prichard
2002-03-20  7:01 forsyth
2002-03-20  5:15 Russ Cox
2002-03-19 22:33 Russ Cox
2002-03-19 17:19 Russ Cox
2002-03-19 16:39 forsyth
2002-03-19 16:18 anothy
2002-03-19 16:46 ` Dharani Vilwanathan
2002-03-19 22:00   ` Dharani Vilwanathan
2002-03-19 14:03 [9fans] long long warning nigel
2002-03-19 16:07 ` [9fans] u9fs Dharani Vilwanathan
2002-03-19 16:15   ` William Josephson
2002-03-20  4:46   ` Steve Kotsopoulos
2001-01-07  6:08 rob pike
2001-01-07  5:54 rob pike
2001-01-07  6:00 ` Boyd Roberts
2000-07-07 16:16 ianb
2000-07-07 14:46 Ish Rattan
2000-07-07 15:26 ` Steve Kotsopoulos
1999-04-23 11:05 [9fans] U9FS 
1999-04-22 16:31 Russ
1999-04-22  8:32 
1999-03-18 11:30 Jean
1999-03-17 23:47 Ed
1999-03-17 19:48 Markus
1999-03-17 19:16 Scott
1999-03-17 16:26 
1999-03-17 15:07 

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