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From: Andrew <afrayedknot@thefrayedknot.armory.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Future of Plan9
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:12:36 -0800
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for what its worth, ive been trying to get my own plan 9 setup going,
and more importantly, offer free accounts on it to anyone who wants
one. Its been a slow process and university work/life takes too much time
to let me get away and do more work on it. Realistically, theres not going to
be a huge number of people who _actually_ want to try and use my plan9
setup, but Im trying to at least raise awareness about it and its ideas.

There is some work, although small, outside of hangar 18.

>
> -	Not a single other user group exists (it's ok, Hangar 18 has
> 	folks in several cities around the US). -NO- other efforts
> 	are extant outside of Hangar 18.
>
<snip>
> -	Plan 9 is a -distributed- OS, using it on your own personal
> 	desktop is like driving a Indy car around a Malibu Grand Prix
> 	track (no affiliation or insult intended to Malibu). Not a single
> 	resource exists outside of Hangar 18 to foster the growth and
> 	development of distributed resources for public access via Open
> 	Source efforts.
>
<snip>
> -	There is no effort outside of Hangar 18 to create a Open Source
> 	public access point into relevant resources. Instead we get an
> 	endless stream of "Try this site..." instead of a more reasoned,
> 	and rational Plan 9 approach of attaching those resources to a
> 	common name space and having them appear automagically to -all-
> 	users in tandem.
>
> 	What a joke, the Plan 9 developers don't even understand how to
> 	use their own creation effectively. Instead they use the same old
> 	same old, treating Plan 9 as if it were just another varient of
> 	*nix.
>
> -	There are -no- efforts outside of Hangar 18 to foster the use
> 	of Plan 9 and wireless networking to really demonstrate the
> 	power of distributed computing (to quote Rheingold - what
> 	happens when that PDA in your hand is the front end to a
> 	tera-flop distributed computing resource?). If we follow the
> 	Plan 9 development community we'll never know. Plan 9 has the
> 	power to give us that -TODAY-.
>