From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <20030303220020.19376.qmail@mail.dirac.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie question: groups From: Keith Nash Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:00:20 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 780c94c2-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 >> How does the group leader add or remove a group member? >he types commands at the console. >where does it still say that? >i thought we'd gotten rid of that lie >in the documentation. It's in the (admittedly rather old) first article in Vol 2 of the manual. No wonder I couldn't find out how to do it from Vol 1! I assume then that only adm can change group membership, by editing /adm/users at the fileserver console. Giving group leaders the right to manage membership of their groups would actually be a very useful feature: Lunix people moan that user/group/world is too coarse-grained, and they want ACLs as well. But user/group/world *and* ACLs reminds me too much of VMS permissions hell. I rather like treating the group as the ACL: and the idea of a group leader, who can add or remove group members, makes it easy to provide fine-grained access this way. Better still if a user can also create a group (without creating a new user with the same name). Keith.