From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andrew To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: Free Plan 9 "shell" accounts? Message-ID: <20030518194920.GA1242@thefrayedknot.armory.com> References: <200305181417.h4IEHf524723@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3EC7A07D.7000900@proweb.co.uk> <007801c31d72$a2741660$e3944251@insultant.net> <20030518192542.GA1174@thefrayedknot.armory.com> <008c01c31d74$9f98a9e0$e3944251@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008c01c31d74$9f98a9e0$e3944251@insultant.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 12:49:20 -0700 Topicbox-Message-UUID: b11b77a6-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 well, thats email in general, as Dan said, qmail is fine, modulo a few issues. but you're absolutly right, email is a disaster...i read rfc821 (or was it 822) the other day...all i have to say is: wtf!? although i dont think qmail itself is bad, its fast (regardless of the multiple tcp delivery thing), its secure (theres an idea!), and its pretty simple no bells and whistles and not much bloat, theres not much more one could ask for given the underlying circumstances. thanks for the input though ;) Andrew On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 09:35:21PM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote: > > maybe Im going to look stupid for asking this, but whats wrong with > > qmail? > > 4 chars ... SMTP -- Simple Mail Transfer Protocol > > no files, no 8 bit chars, nothing but 7 bit ASCII. > > then we get the 150 pages of the 4 MINE (sic) rfcs and we > know who the guilty are and why and it is no longer SIMPLE. > > POP ... Post Office Protocol -- simple > > IMAP ... DISASTER, it tries to be a file server but it's only dealing with mail. > > FTP ... File Transfer Protocol > > QED >