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From: George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pop3 before smtp
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 05:33:03 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030711053303.2340e439.ggm@apnic.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A1AFDDC-B30B-11D7-8B4D-000393D34A62@orthanc.ab.ca>


probably the same twisted logic which prevented people implementing 'turn
please' in the same protocol. oh hang on, that WAS a security risk, wasn't it...

I believe it was Charles Forsyth who pointed out to me S(imple) MTP didn't make
much sense when the paper printout of the RFC was 1/2 an inch thick.

in marketing terms, I suspect embedded sender security would be popular. I use a
mailer called 'sylpheed' which is a GUI frontend to MH, and it does  STARTTLS in
its choices, and does it even if you don't want it, if the upstream SMTP server
demands it. So maybe there is some sanity emerging.

-George


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-10 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-07 12:05 [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image pac
2003-07-07 13:39 ` [9fans] pop3 before smtp Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  0:49   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-09  1:16     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  1:24       ` Dan Cross
2003-07-09  1:58         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  1:36       ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-09  1:54         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09  5:05           ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  7:21             ` Fco.J.Ballesteros, nemo
2003-07-09  7:39               ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  7:56                 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-09  8:29                   ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-09  9:07                     ` Kenji Arisawa
2003-07-10  4:02             ` Russ Cox
2003-07-10 19:18               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 19:24                 ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:38                   ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:49                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:09                       ` William Ahern
2003-07-10 21:21                         ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-10 21:50                           ` Dan Cross
2003-07-10 21:56                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11  0:02                             ` David Presotto
2003-07-11  0:09                               ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11  0:23                                 ` David Presotto
2003-07-11 15:03                                 ` William Ahern
2003-07-11 15:16                                   ` Martin Harriss
2003-07-11 15:59                                     ` William Ahern
2003-07-12  0:51                                     ` Bruce Ellis
2003-07-11 10:44                               ` matt
2003-07-11 14:46                             ` William Ahern
2003-07-12 23:58                               ` C H Forsyth
2003-07-11  8:52                           ` bs
2003-07-11  9:18                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 19:51                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 20:01                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:20                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 19:33                 ` George Michaelson [this message]
2003-07-10 19:44                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-10 22:02                   ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 22:14                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:11                       ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 23:26                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:38                           ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 23:48                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 23:56                               ` David Presotto
2003-07-11  0:03                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 22:23                     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-07-07 16:58 ` [9fans] verifying CD vs. iso image David Presotto
2003-07-07 20:46   ` boyd, rounin

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