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From: Dave Lukes <davel@luchie.demon.co.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:50:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030718165017.A1419@luchie.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d188d2a4b2a616860aac267f84ecb1dc@plan9.escet.urjc.es>

<raise-head-above-parapet>
Speaking as someone who's trained/used/sworn-at XML/XSLT/XSL-FO ...

> > just drop me a few words, or just [1] .. [5]  ;-)

[1] .. [5] :-).

What Trickey said, plus.

Seriously, XML has it's uses.

e.g. XSL-FO may one day be a tolerable troff replacement.
(Although I'd hate to be an implementor of an XSL-FO processor:
 the reference documents sent me to sleep in record time).

On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 05:23:25PM +0200, Fco. J. Ballesteros wrote:
> IMHO, it's text data reinvented, with some help to automate parsing.

Yes, but with some tree structure and naming too.

One of the "interesting" "features" I've noticed about XML is the
"if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
syndrome.

You end up with XSLT (i.e. XML) programs manipulating XML data
driven by XML configuration files and so ad infinitum.
(Look at the Apache stuff, like ant for an example).

(Yes, I know XSLT can _generate_ plain text, just about,
but it can't _read_ it!)

This disease will be familar to the Lispers out there.

</raise-head-above-parapet>

Cheers,
	Dave.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-18 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-18 15:12 pac
2003-07-18 15:17 ` Lucio De Re
2003-07-18 19:15   ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-18 19:34     ` ron minnich
2003-07-18 20:34       ` Dan Cross
2003-07-18 21:10         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 21:51           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2003-07-18 21:58             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-21  8:28           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-07-21  8:50             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-21 15:09             ` Dan Cross
2003-07-18 21:13         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 22:06       ` [9fans] Supermon boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 15:17 ` [9fans] don't shoot me ron minnich
2003-07-18 15:23 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-07-18 15:50   ` Dave Lukes [this message]
2003-07-18 17:43     ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-19  3:12     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-19  3:45       ` Dan Cross
2003-07-19  3:48         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-19  4:11           ` Dan Cross
2003-07-19  4:15             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-21  8:28           ` Anthony Mandic
2003-07-21  8:57             ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-19  4:18         ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-19  4:20         ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-19  4:26           ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-12 16:09       ` jared jennings
2003-07-18 16:55 ` David Presotto
2003-07-18 17:02   ` ron minnich
2003-07-18 18:22     ` Nigel Roles
2003-07-21  8:27     ` Anthony Mandic
2003-07-18 17:37   ` diacritics (was: Re: [9fans] don't shoot me) andrey mirtchovski
2003-07-18 19:39     ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-18 21:11       ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 22:17         ` northern snowfall
2003-07-18 21:25           ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 22:32             ` northern snowfall
2003-07-21  8:28             ` Anthony Mandic
2003-07-21  8:55               ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-11 14:33     ` Latchesar Ionkov
2003-08-11 18:05       ` rob pike, esq.
2003-08-11 23:49         ` Latchesar Ionkov
2003-08-12  0:32           ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-12  1:27             ` Latchesar Ionkov
2003-08-12  2:04             ` David Presotto
2003-08-12 18:44         ` Chris Hollis-Locke
2003-08-12 19:06           ` Latchesar Ionkov
2003-08-12 21:37             ` Chris Hollis-Locke
2003-08-12 22:02               ` Charles Forsyth
2003-08-13  1:49               ` boyd, rounin
2003-08-13 10:08                 ` chris
2003-08-13 10:25                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 17:10 ` [9fans] don't shoot me matt
2003-07-19  6:45 ` Taj Khattra
2003-07-19  6:51   ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-19 11:19     ` Bruce Ellis
2003-07-19 11:41       ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-18 15:45 Trickey, Howard W (Howard)
     [not found] <1627809308@snellwilcox.com>
2003-07-18 17:00 ` steve.simon
2003-07-21 15:40 Stephen Parker

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