From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-Id: <200309070534.h875YNj15037@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] re: spam filtering fs In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 06 Sep 2003 22:04:16 MDT." From: Dan Cross Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 01:34:23 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 2e1bcf1c-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > > I've been thinking about this, and come to some conclusions. First, > > that one has to do whatever it is one decides to do within the context > > of SMTP or ESMTP. While importing a filesystem would be a nice, > > elegant solution, it's just not realistic. > > I'm not willing to accept this. You are right, I have no argument with > what you are saying, but I started out with 5-level baudot paper tapes and > we're not using them any more, so the compatibility argument, while > strong, can be trumped at some point by superior technology. Hopefully, eventually, it *will* change. When I say ``it's just not realistic,'' I should qualify that a bit more. ``It's just not realistic on a large scale any time soon, where soon is defined within the next five years.'' The thing that worries me is that ``at some point'' statement; it took the world a while to get over its fascination with paper tape. What's more, I'm sure we've both seen good technology get glossed over, never fledge, and ultimately fail. Look at Betamax, for instance. > I don't want these SPAM bastards putting one byte of data on my machine. > That rules out any approach based on *SMTP. Well, gosh, they're going to do that anyway even if you go the filesystem route. Tauth transactions, attaches, and reads and writes from/to the auth file all transfer data. Ultimately, this is probably less than putting stuff in an SMTP transaction, but if you > That said, you are correct that only *SMTP-based approach will have big > impact in the 1-2 year time frame. Yeah. Sad but true. Okay, now it's time to get working. After all, ``did we stand still when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?''[*] Who's with me? - Dan C. -- [*] For our non-US readers; that's a line from the movie, `Animal House,' about college fraternities. If you ever get a chance to see it, I recommend it.