From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] forget authing the senders Message-ID: <20030929073858.X27821@cackle.proxima.alt.za> References: <20030928203528.U27821@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <7c31e1e429810c8df2a896d6b7bfdbb9@sdgm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <7c31e1e429810c8df2a896d6b7bfdbb9@sdgm.net>; from boyd@sdgm.net on Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:51:46PM -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:38:59 +0200 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 54cd4d48-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:51:46PM -0400, boyd@sdgm.net wrote: > > you don't need a reverse lookup. you never use domain name. > getpeername(2) on lunix will hand up the address -- always > use dotted quads. > Thing is, I can suppress SPAM to my own workstation, but not to my client's users, on the off chance that something important arrives unsolicited. I can't afford to reply and request confirmation, because then I've alerted the spammer that my address is in fact valid; something in the current climate I'd rather avoid (our discussion has omitted that fact, but I can see why). I _could_ demand that the DNS for the connecting exchanger be set up in both directions, preferably matched, as my mail exchanger can validate such details. But at the user level this is unacceptable: too many exchangers are _not_ set up in such a fashion and many of them are legitimate forwarders. The same with relays, but more pervasive. In case you wonder, my own exchanger (cackle.proxima.alt.za [196.30.44.141]) will reject mail from exchangers with unresolved IP addresses. I keep stats for that as well, but they are not as high, understandably, and they are not web-accessible. > anyway? where is your face? Rhetoric question? It's in the Plan 9 distribution. ++L