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From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Multi-stack mail problem.
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In-Reply-To: <2f595b48898a172d97bbfb76ca53b24e@plan9.escet.urjc.es>; from Fco.J.Ballesteros on Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:16:26AM +0200
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:27:10 +0200
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On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:16:26AM +0200, Fco.J.Ballesteros wrote:
>
> > connections via Internet Access Villans.  I'm sure dropping all IP
> > routing bloat will make the LAN Plan 9 workstation kernel a whole
> > lot simpler.
>
> But now that we have the common idiom (i.e. ip) being adopted by
> everything in the world, it seems to be a mistake to fall appart
> and go back to il. We had lots of problems because our atm vlan
> config prior to adopting tcp for 9p connections.

Sort of.  There are certainly economies of scale involved, where
a router today costs less than a trivial HDLC controller for the
8-bit PC bus did in 1982, but is it really all for the better?

Now that it's dawning on the trend setters that they've forgotten
to establish the social rules to play by, maybe somebody will also
realise that a large fraction of the "developing world" could make
good use of the obsolete equipment that the developed world is set
on getting rid of, if only one could stop the marketing tide that
insists that only tomorrow's products are any good for the present
circumstances.  And the refrain that suggests that "it costs too
much" to recycle technology when perhaps the correct sentence is
"it would undercut our sales".

Yes, we've definitely slipped up on the ethical end of things.

++L