From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lucio De Re To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 'wall' messages Message-ID: <20031007135230.K4625@cackle.proxima.alt.za> References: <00d301c38cb8$b5d6f320$c901a8c0@cc77109e> <20031007124103.J4625@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <018501c38cc6$0edb4450$c901a8c0@cc77109e> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <018501c38cc6$0edb4450$c901a8c0@cc77109e>; from Bruce Ellis on Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:27:54PM +1000 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:52:31 +0200 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 652774f2-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:27:54PM +1000, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > when i see stuff like this: > > > echo "WARNING: REBOOT AT 21:00" > /dev/display/* >> /lib/news > > and > > > You're position basically lets the user have free reign over something > > that isn't theirs. Yuck! > > i think that someone should be reading the manuals and ... i give up. ... which contributes to the impression that we're a bunch of inbred fanatics on this list My mentor (one of them, but the first I thought of as such) had a neat little phrase: "Think of them as competition". Here, a more appropriate one may be "Think of them as the majority". Someone here ought to get across to them, instruct them. Not necessarily you or I, but by being critical we may be making it difficult for those who would otherwise be willing to try. And even though I believe that "there is no such thing as good example" I have no difficulty recognising a bad example when I see it. And those are much, much easier to follow. What I'm hoping is that we'll all learn from the recent inane debacles to make the tone on this mailing list more instructive or, at least, less destructive. There's an amazing amount of learning I find in the topical postings here and I'm not afraid to admit that almost all the regulars have contributed in some manner to this learning, let's encourage that type of message. But Bruce, please don't take it personally, the only reason I chose your posting was because it was the most recent example. I'm sure I could have found one of my own, had I looked for it. ++L