From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Martin C.Atkins To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] venti ports and productization Message-Id: <20031022152211.0594a65d.martin@parvat.com> In-Reply-To: <6587E314-03E0-11D8-90F1-000A95B984D8@mightycheese.com> References: <20031021154451.7dcb10c8.martin@parvat.com> <6587E314-03E0-11D8-90F1-000A95B984D8@mightycheese.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:22:11 +0530 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 76bb5f1c-eacc-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:05:31 -0700 Rob Pike wrote: > > you should make it protocol-compatible. can't be hard. > ask for the details. and On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:20:47 -0400 a@9srv.net wrote: > the fact that it's not protocol-compatable does lower (but not > totally eliminate) its value to me. if your version doesn't run > on Plan 9 and host fossil, that does, as well. on the other hand, I'll have a look at what it would take to make the protocol compatible. Actually, one of the things I've chosen to do differently makes the protocol incompatible (it changes the 'score', in a way that I'd prefer not to discuss until I'm sure it is desirable!) However, it might be possible to support the Venti protocol simultaneously. Rog's Inferno code looks like a good starting point for information (thanks Rog!), although perhaps I could download the 'real thing' now, without it influencing my ideas too much about how to approach various design decisions. (I came across a 'Linux/BSD/etc CD' vendor here in Bangalore last week, who listed Plan 9 as being available - is there a Plan 9 UG in Bangalore?!) > those first two points make me skeptical, but i'll be checking it > out today. fix those two (so why didn't you use the venti code?) I also wanted to be very certain that no Venti code found its way into my implementation, lest I violate any copyrights. Patents, are of course another issue. I have searched without finding anything that seems relevant, but that is the problem with patents! > even the ideas are worth a lot, and if you can put file systems > on top of it (like fossil does, rather than just using it as an > archival vault) that my unix systems can use, that's a big win. I haven't any plans at the moment for a read-write filesystem, like fossil, but I certainly aim to provide something like /backup. > and provide a few tools my VP of Marketing can use, and get an > OS X port, and i'll buy a few coppies. We certainly intend that the system will be 'user-friendly', but in the Unix sense, not the lots-of-icons Windows sense. Martin -- Martin C. Atkins martin@parvat.com Parvat Infotech (Private) Limited http://www.parvat.com