Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

[Noah Evans]

http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/9grid/

----- Original Message -----
From: David Tolpin <dvd@davidashen.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

> > personally, i like the simplicity and elegance of
> > plan9, so i use it and develop for it when i have time.
> >
>
> OK, are there development efforts of general interest closely
> related to plan9? Is there a list anywhere? Many, if not most,
> projects mentioned on Wiki I sleeping.
>
> David
>

Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

[ron minnich]

OK, somebody else mentioned 9grid.

I ought to mention that I have run a distributed radiation transport
problem on the 9grid, some nodes here, some at bell labs. I wrote a simple
task bag file system (ripped-off ramfs) to support the app.

Plan 9 showed itself to be the best (only) grid system that let you
program the exact same way when resources are local or remote. The task
bag is a great way to run problems like this, and it all works no matter
where the process is, due to Plan 9 features like Private Name Spaces.
Globus will never get to where Plan 9 is now.

Now if we can solve the messier problems we'll be there.

ron

Re: [9fans] task bag file system (was: Re: new release?)

[Axel Belinfante]

ron wrote:

> I have run a distributed radiation transport problem on the 9grid
[...]
> I wrote a simple task bag file system (ripped-off ramfs)
> to support the app.

Have you something written down about this, somewhere?

I think I recall seeing something about 9grid related
papers in the works or even already submitted, but I'm
sorry I forgot the details including who was doing them.

Axel - who is just trying to learn
(I have been thinking a bit about how I would
 try to do that, up to making a sketch of an
 idea that however never made it to the 9grid
 list -- seeing how far or close that idea was
 to something that actually has been running
 on the 9grid would be interesting for me)

Re: [9fans] task bag file system (was: Re: new release?)

[ron minnich]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Axel Belinfante wrote:

> Have you something written down about this, somewhere?

no, I have to write it up and get the code released. On the to-do list but
all this takes some time. It's a trivial patch to ramfs.

ron

Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

[Charles Forsyth]

>>Globus will never get to where Plan 9 is now.

ah, but Globus has frequent release number increments
because Globus is frequently changing (incompatibly)
so that must be better, surely.

Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

[Taj Khattra]

> ah, but Globus has frequent release number increments
> because Globus is frequently changing (incompatibly)
> so that must be better, surely.

yep, the Beatles actually predicted this a long time ago:

    I've got to admit it's getting better (better)
    A little better all the time (it can't get no worse)

Re: [9fans] Re: new release?

[boyd, rounin]

> Now if we can solve the messier problems we'll be there.

we're workin' on it ...