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From: Derek Fawcus <dfawcus@cisco.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] pathetic
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 01:15:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040226011539.N7383@edinburgh.cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0402250900080.9147-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>; from rminnich@lanl.gov on Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:02:45AM -0700

On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 09:02:45AM -0700, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Derek Fawcus wrote:
>
> well ... on e.g. linux, the segment descriptors are used. Paging on x86 is

Well the descriptors have to be there,  but they're ususally set for 1:1
mapping (phys == linear).  It used to be that linux used the segments
for proc protection,  then just for the 3G limit,  now I believe they
are set 1:1 and everything done with pages.

> in addition to segments. segment are earlier in address translation path
> than pages, and they are still there when paging is turned on. It's quite
> weird.

err - later.
  Virt => Linear (via paging h/w).  Then Linear => Phys (via segment h/w).

> I don't see an NX bit in my pentium manual.

That's what AMD are supposed to have added.  That's what the whole hoohaw is
about,  they've added a bit somewhere (I'd guess a spare bit from the page
descriptor) such that a page can be non execute.

DF


  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-26  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-25 15:26 ron minnich
2004-02-25 15:41 ` Derek Fawcus
2004-02-25 16:02   ` ron minnich
2004-02-26  1:15     ` Derek Fawcus [this message]
2004-02-26  3:45       ` ron minnich
2004-02-26  4:12         ` Derek Fawcus
2004-02-26  6:48         ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26  6:41       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-25 16:26 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-26  6:02 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 10:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2004-02-26 11:32   ` Charles Forsyth
2004-02-26 11:33     ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-26 12:39     ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-26 12:11       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 13:42   ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 14:36   ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 14:41     ` David Presotto
2004-02-26 14:40       ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 14:47       ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 14:44         ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 15:28           ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 15:38             ` George Michaelson
2004-02-26 16:16               ` ron minnich
2004-02-26 17:32                 ` [9fans] SPF+SMTP C H Forsyth
2004-03-01 10:34               ` [9fans] pathetic Vin McLellan
2004-02-26 15:38             ` dbailey27
2004-02-26 14:58               ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-26 15:53                 ` dbailey27
2004-02-27  9:01             ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-27 10:52               ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-27 13:07                 ` David Presotto
2004-02-27 20:26                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2004-02-27 22:22                   ` Tristan Seligmann
2004-02-27 23:36                   ` Geoff Collyer
2004-02-27 13:42                 ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-27 15:42                   ` a
2004-02-27 17:45                     ` 9nut
2004-02-27 23:10                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-29 21:11                     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 15:16         ` C H Forsyth
2004-02-26 15:37           ` Dave Lukes
2004-02-26 17:55         ` jmk
2004-02-26 19:23           ` Richard Miller
2004-02-26 19:35             ` jmk
2004-02-26 19:50               ` Richard Miller
2004-02-27 11:04           ` Dan Moniz
2004-02-26 20:46     ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-26 15:37 ` Derek Fawcus

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