* [9fans] more dumb questions [not found] <20040312064003.8452.23048.Mailman@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu> @ 2004-03-15 3:09 ` dave cummings 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: dave cummings @ 2004-03-15 3:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Ahhh, it seems my decompression went awry. All I got was a single 2mb text file containing the source files, and a bunch of garbage. Searching this file for README finds it way at the bottom. So something went wrong detarring/preserving directory hierarchy. This explains a lot. As to where 3) went, it seems I need a book on counting first! I think it was caused by my trying to use letters in a primarily number based scheme (1a). Ok, I'll give something with these files a shot, can't hurt now. (maybe someone can send me a binary sparc kernel?) As to books, english is a germanic language after all! But I was asking more along the lines of general books that might give me some background I feel I'm obviously missing. Or maybe just more playtime is needed. thanks -dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* [9fans] more dumb questions [not found] <20040222170031.13081.74298.Mailman@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu> @ 2004-03-14 6:57 ` dave cummings 2004-03-14 7:41 ` Geoff Collyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: dave cummings @ 2004-03-14 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Alright, fellas. Time for more dumb questions(and dumb answers?) from me. I want a plan 9 network(cpu/auth, fs, term) i have 3 computers. That's where the easy part stops. Currently I like plan 9 as it runs on my ibm t20 laptop, but I don't have enough space for venti. The other computers are a Sparcstation 10 and a ps2 with the linux kit. Therefore: 1) What exactly is the Sun sources on extra software.(all the neccessary kernel source files concatenated? what's the garbage between each file?) 1a) Does anybody have a copy of the full 2ed, or what's the quickest way to get something resembling plan 9 on the sparc. 2) Can inferno serve venti? that is, how am i to best use the ps2(with its 40gb hdd). 4) should i give up and install openbsd/linux on everything, leave the list and be perfectly(?) happy using second-grade os's. Ok, that said, what books should I read to stop bothering all of you/if you help me out now, I may be able to contribute something in the future. maybe. Once again, thanks. -dave __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-14 6:57 ` dave cummings @ 2004-03-14 7:41 ` Geoff Collyer 2004-03-14 8:13 ` boyd, rounin ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Geoff Collyer @ 2004-03-14 7:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans 1) as its README says: --- This directory contains an approximation to the the sources included in the 1995, Release 2 edition of Plan 9, pertinent to the construction of Sun SLC, Sparcstation 2, and Sparcstation 10 kernels. It also includes some related files that may help the porter, including similar vintage ports for the PC and Gnot. Although it includes relevant C header files, it does not include the sources for the libraries. --- It looks like it's a gzipped tar file. 1a) Some of us have 2e source, but it's covered by the more-restrictive 2e licence, and you can't those licences any more. 2) Probably; it's just 9P (and the new Styx is supposed to be quite close to 9P2000). 4) [sic] `Three, sir!' It will take some work to update a 2e sparc kernel to 4e. Just running a 2e kernel might work; I don't think 9P1 changed enough after 2e to matter, as long as you don't need 9P2000 for anything. There is only one Plan 9 book, from 1995, and it's in German. You can get it from amazon.de if you really want it. I was told by a famous publisher that there is no market for a Plan 9 book. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-14 7:41 ` Geoff Collyer @ 2004-03-14 8:13 ` boyd, rounin 2004-03-15 10:43 ` Dave Cummings 2004-03-15 10:44 ` Sascha Wildner 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: boyd, rounin @ 2004-03-14 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > 4) [sic] `Three, sir!' it's one of the sacred relics brother maynard carries ... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-14 7:41 ` Geoff Collyer 2004-03-14 8:13 ` boyd, rounin @ 2004-03-15 10:43 ` Dave Cummings 2004-03-15 10:44 ` Sascha Wildner 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dave Cummings @ 2004-03-15 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Ahhh, it seems my decompression went awry. All I got was a single 2mb text file containing the source files, and a bunch of garbage. Searching this file for README finds it way at the bottom. So something went wrong detarring/preserving directory hierarchy. This explains a lot. As to where 3) went, it seems I need a book on counting first! I think it was caused by my trying to use letters in a primarily number based scheme (1a). Ok, I'll give something with the 2e kernel a shot, can't hurt now. As to books, english is a germanic language after all! But I was asking more along the lines of general books that might give me some background I feel I'm obviously missing. Or maybe just more playtime is needed. thanks -dave ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-14 7:41 ` Geoff Collyer 2004-03-14 8:13 ` boyd, rounin 2004-03-15 10:43 ` Dave Cummings @ 2004-03-15 10:44 ` Sascha Wildner 2004-03-15 10:59 ` Geoff Collyer 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Sascha Wildner @ 2004-03-15 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Geoff Collyer wrote: > There is only one Plan 9 book, from 1995, and it's in German. You can > get it from amazon.de if you really want it. I was told by a famous > publisher that there is no market for a Plan 9 book. Hello, the book is from 1999: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3446188819/qid%3D1079258888/302-6468304-4109662 Sascha Wildner -- http://yoyodyne.ath.cx ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-15 10:44 ` Sascha Wildner @ 2004-03-15 10:59 ` Geoff Collyer 2004-03-15 10:59 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Geoff Collyer @ 2004-03-15 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 224 bytes --] My apologies; I could have sworn it was 1995. Perhaps there was an earlier edition. In any case, it can't be describing any version of the system newer than second edition, since 3e didn't appear until spring of 2001. [-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 2444 bytes --] From: Sascha Wildner <saw@online.de> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] more dumb questions Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:44:09 GMT Message-ID: <c31bo2$k9d$1@newsreader2.netcologne.de> Geoff Collyer wrote: > There is only one Plan 9 book, from 1995, and it's in German. You can > get it from amazon.de if you really want it. I was told by a famous > publisher that there is no market for a Plan 9 book. Hello, the book is from 1999: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3446188819/qid%3D1079258888/302-6468304-4109662 Sascha Wildner -- http://yoyodyne.ath.cx ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-15 10:59 ` Geoff Collyer @ 2004-03-15 10:59 ` Charles Forsyth 2004-03-15 11:08 ` Geoff Collyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2004-03-15 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans >>the system newer than second edition, since 3e didn't appear until >>spring of 2001. 2000, i think. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] more dumb questions 2004-03-15 10:59 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2004-03-15 11:08 ` Geoff Collyer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Geoff Collyer @ 2004-03-15 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 189 bytes --] /sys/doc/release3.ms says you're right. I could have sworn 3e was released the day after I left the Labs, which would have made it 1 April 2001. I guess that was some interim release. [-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 1854 bytes --] From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] more dumb questions Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:59:44 0000 Message-ID: <b8f3adb12e33364bb5b4c023fe7df7f7@terzarima.net> >>the system newer than second edition, since 3e didn't appear until >>spring of 2001. 2000, i think. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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