Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Ben Huntsman]

Yes, I've never found a VNC server that works correctly under Mac OS X... clients are a dime a dozen, though...

>>> Geoff Collyer<geoff@collyer.net> 4/8/2004 12:25:19 PM >>>
I have a mac but only access it via vnc over gigabit ether, which
doesn't get all the funny Mac keys right and throws off the timing of
everything.  I think there's something wrong with the OS X vnc server;
vnc was much snappier when I used it browse the web on openbsd at a
mere 100Mb/s.

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Ben Huntsman]

Good point... I've not used Acme under Inferno much

>unfortunately you do (for instance the Cut/Snarf/Snarf/Send menu is
>accessed in a shell window with button 2).
>
>not to mention acme, which ain't great with only 1 one button (read:
>completely useless)

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Ben Huntsman]

I use Inferno under Mac OS X, using the Apple X11, and rio from Russ's Plan 9 ports collection, and everything seems to work correctly...  Though I don't recall ever needing extra mouse buttons under Inferno anyway...

>>> ron minnich<rminnich@lanl.gov> 4/7/2004 10:03:57 PM >>>
20040331 + the fixed emu from that other site (forget which) finally 
brought up a window today. On the nth install something must have gone 
right.

Anyway, now have no middle or right button support. Not the 3-button 
emulation or the 3-button mouse I have. 3 buttons work in everything BUT 
wm/wm in inferno. Anybody else seen this?

ron
p.s. 20040331 did not by itself fix the problem. 

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[rog]

> Though I don't recall ever needing extra mouse buttons under Inferno anyway...

unfortunately you do (for instance the Cut/Snarf/Snarf/Send menu is
accessed in a shell window with button 2).

not to mention acme, which ain't great with only 1 one button (read:
completely useless)

if anyone here had a mac, we'd probably be able to do better.  sorry!

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[C H Forsyth]

>>if anyone here had a mac, we'd probably be able to do better.  sorry!

i'm trying to get one now.

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Jeff Sickel]

The current/new emu binary I've sent to Charles should work with a 
three button mouse under Apple's X11.  I've been running with various 
Logitech 3-button mice on two different machines without err.

The only problem I've had with the latest release has been the supplied 
Mac OS X emu is one from pre 20031205, which doesn't live to long 
during the install and a few other things.  I can send in a new binary 
if it's needed.

jas

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Geoff Collyer]

I have a mac but only access it via vnc over gigabit ether, which
doesn't get all the funny Mac keys right and throws off the timing of
everything.  I think there's something wrong with the OS X vnc server;
vnc was much snappier when I used it browse the web on openbsd at a
mere 100Mb/s.

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[ron minnich]

I"m getting use to option-button for middle button and 'apple-button' for 
right button. works just fine.

ron

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Russ Cox]

> I"m getting use to option-button for middle button and 'apple-button' for
> right button. works just fine.

clearly you don't use acme.

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[ron minnich]

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Russ Cox wrote:

> > I"m getting use to option-button for middle button and 'apple-button' for
> > right button. works just fine.
> 
> clearly you don't use acme.


?? I've been using acme on inferno on macosx for a while now, so do not 
get your comment. You have left, middle, right buttons with no trouble if 
you can adapt to the keyboard+mouse button usage, which was my point.

ron

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Rob Pike]

does the chording work? i'm impressed.

-rob

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[ron minnich]

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Rob Pike wrote:

> does the chording work? i'm impressed.

yes, it works fine. 

ron

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[Russ Cox]

> ?? I've been using acme on inferno on macosx for a while now, so do not
> get your comment. You have left, middle, right buttons with no trouble if
> you can adapt to the keyboard+mouse button usage, which was my point.

do you use chords?  i find chording with simulated mouse buttons
almost impossible to master.

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[boyd, rounin]

> do you use chords?  i find chording with simulated mouse buttons
> almost impossible to master.

i find chording impossible to master, 'cept on guitar.

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[ron minnich]

On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Russ Cox wrote:

> do you use chords?  i find chording with simulated mouse buttons
> almost impossible to master.

it's actually easier for me to do this than some of the rio chording. 

not that I'm fast, it's just that I can use it.

ron

[9fans] inferno macos x

[ron minnich]

20040331 + the fixed emu from that other site (forget which) finally 
brought up a window today. On the nth install something must have gone 
right.

Anyway, now have no middle or right button support. Not the 3-button 
emulation or the 3-button mouse I have. 3 buttons work in everything BUT 
wm/wm in inferno. Anybody else seen this?

ron
p.s. 20040331 did not by itself fix the problem. 

Re: [9fans] inferno macos x

[ron minnich]

OK, it is now all working, though it gets occasional weird errors 
(program.dis will fail due to 'bad character'). 

But at least it is sort of up.

ron