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From: Richard C Bilson <rcbilson@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] stack reclamation on Unix using clone, rfork_thread, etc.
Date: Fri,  4 Jun 2004 11:33:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200406041533.i54FXNm29967@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> (raw)

> From 9fans-bounces+rcbilson=plg.uwaterloo.ca@cse.psu.edu Fri Jun  4 11:19:57 2004
> 
> I would associate each stack segment to an 'address space' structure
> shared by each shared-memory process.
> When the reference counter of this structure goes to zero, I would
> free all the segment 'associated' to this structure (and free the structure 
> :) ).

Yes, but what thread does the free?  You can't free your own stack, and
how does any other thread know to do it for you?  This is a pain, and a
pain that I have felt myself.

Of course, it's easy if there is some kind of termination
synchronization, and the thread that waits is responsible for cleaning
up after the thread that finishes.  But I assume that Russ is trying to
solve the problem in the general case.

As far as I know, the new pthreads library on Linux uses a technique
very similar to the one that Russ describes, with the additional
optimization of re-using stacks if possible.  In fact, I'm not sure if
they ever free stacks -- just keep them around in case a new thread
needs one.

The old linuxthreads library used a "manager thread" to do the reaping
(among other things), which isn't particularly nice or efficient.


             reply	other threads:[~2004-06-04 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-04 15:33 Richard C Bilson [this message]
2004-06-04 15:53 ` Russ Cox
2004-06-04 18:43   ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-04 16:22 ` Philippe Anel
2004-06-04 16:24   ` Philippe Anel
2004-06-04 16:38   ` Russ Cox
2004-06-04 16:43     ` Charles Forsyth
2004-06-04 19:02   ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-04 18:35 ` boyd, rounin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-04 16:44 Richard C Bilson
2004-06-04 14:39 Russ Cox
2004-06-04 15:20 ` Philippe Anel
2004-06-04 15:23   ` Philippe Anel
2004-06-04 18:30 ` boyd, rounin
2004-06-04 18:38   ` Russ Cox

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