Re: [9fans] [Fwd: road sign]

[Uriel <uriell@binarydream.org>]

when I hear about resource forks or extended attributes I reach for my
MP5.

apple latest "innovation" is to fuck up tar, zip, and I think even cp
and mv to pass around their wonderful crap.

a file I got from a graphic design company we work with:

; ls
Linsbilder_JPG.zip
; file Linsbilder_JPG.zip
Linsbilder JPG.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract
; unzip Linsbilder_JPG.zip >/dev/null
$ ls -l
drwxr-xr-x  2 uriel uriel    4096 2005-10-04 10:15 Linsbilder JPG
-rw-r--r--  1 uriel uriel 5801742 2005-10-11 08:56 Linsbilder_JPG.zip
drwxr-xr-x  3 uriel uriel    4096 2005-10-11 09:01 __MACOSX
; ls -l __MACOSX
total 4
drwxr-xr-x  2 uriel uriel 4096 2005-10-11 09:01 Linsbilder JPG
; ls -l '__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/'
[nothing!]
; ls -la '__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/'
total 1156
drwxr-xr-x  2 uriel uriel  4096 2005-10-11 09:01 .
drwxr-xr-x  3 uriel uriel  4096 2005-10-11 09:01 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 uriel uriel 37848 2005-10-04 10:15 ._01.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 uriel uriel 37929 2005-10-04 10:14 ._02.jpg
-rw-r--r--  1 uriel uriel 37837 2005-10-04 10:15 ._03.jpg
[...]
-rw-r--r--  1 uriel uriel    70 2005-10-04 10:07 ._.DS_Store
; file '__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/._01.jpg'
__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/._01.jpg: AppleDouble encoded Macintosh file

20h, get those physics packages ready, we have some fireworks to make
around Cupertino.

unix has become so disgusting that people covers it's crap with a tick
layer of sparkling sugar, but in the end maybe it will be the sugar that
kills you.

the new holy trinity: MacOS X, Google, and Firefox.

doing a boyd maybe, but someone had to do it.

uriel

P.S.: Oh, and don't you love their new XML based init system[0]?! "The unix
of the 21th century" indeed.

[0] http://developer.apple.com/macosx/launchd.html

On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:52:56PM -0700, David Leimbach wrote:
> > >
> > > No, but the RFCs never really covered correct handling of 'forked'
> > > binary files (such as those found on Macs).
> >
> > Thankfully, even Apple on OS X has slowly gone away from the blasted
> > Resource Forks.  Sure, you can still use them (if you're Adobe), but
> > none of the Cocoa or CoreFoundation APIs go out and encourage to
> > resource forks any more.
> 
> No but the whole OS pretty much relies on storing things in extended
> attributes now.  Even the resource forks can be found there now.  [I
> believe this is also where ACLs are stored but don't quote me on this]
> 
> Why does a file need to be like a directory?  Isn't that what
> directories are for? :)
> 
> Dave