From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:25:51 +0100 From: Uriel To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] [Fwd: road sign] Message-ID: <20051011072551.GH8153@server4.lensbuddy.com> References: <4349E6B7.20008@lanl.gov> <20051011015640.5EEA91AB1BD@dexter-peak.quanstro.net> <20051011024950.GB28444@localhost.localdomain> <3e1162e60510102252y6e10ca4ejb50e6db1897cb697@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3e1162e60510102252y6e10ca4ejb50e6db1897cb697@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 998d68f6-ead0-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 when I hear about resource forks or extended attributes I reach for my MP5. apple latest "innovation" is to fuck up tar, zip, and I think even cp and mv to pass around their wonderful crap. a file I got from a graphic design company we work with: ; ls Linsbilder_JPG.zip ; file Linsbilder_JPG.zip Linsbilder JPG.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract ; unzip Linsbilder_JPG.zip >/dev/null $ ls -l drwxr-xr-x 2 uriel uriel 4096 2005-10-04 10:15 Linsbilder JPG -rw-r--r-- 1 uriel uriel 5801742 2005-10-11 08:56 Linsbilder_JPG.zip drwxr-xr-x 3 uriel uriel 4096 2005-10-11 09:01 __MACOSX ; ls -l __MACOSX total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 uriel uriel 4096 2005-10-11 09:01 Linsbilder JPG ; ls -l '__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/' [nothing!] ; ls -la '__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/' total 1156 drwxr-xr-x 2 uriel uriel 4096 2005-10-11 09:01 . drwxr-xr-x 3 uriel uriel 4096 2005-10-11 09:01 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 uriel uriel 37848 2005-10-04 10:15 ._01.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 uriel uriel 37929 2005-10-04 10:14 ._02.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 uriel uriel 37837 2005-10-04 10:15 ._03.jpg [...] -rw-r--r-- 1 uriel uriel 70 2005-10-04 10:07 ._.DS_Store ; file '__MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/._01.jpg' __MACOSX/Linsbilder JPG/._01.jpg: AppleDouble encoded Macintosh file 20h, get those physics packages ready, we have some fireworks to make around Cupertino. unix has become so disgusting that people covers it's crap with a tick layer of sparkling sugar, but in the end maybe it will be the sugar that kills you. the new holy trinity: MacOS X, Google, and Firefox. doing a boyd maybe, but someone had to do it. uriel P.S.: Oh, and don't you love their new XML based init system[0]?! "The unix of the 21th century" indeed. [0] http://developer.apple.com/macosx/launchd.html On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:52:56PM -0700, David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > > No, but the RFCs never really covered correct handling of 'forked' > > > binary files (such as those found on Macs). > > > > Thankfully, even Apple on OS X has slowly gone away from the blasted > > Resource Forks. Sure, you can still use them (if you're Adobe), but > > none of the Cocoa or CoreFoundation APIs go out and encourage to > > resource forks any more. > > No but the whole OS pretty much relies on storing things in extended > attributes now. Even the resource forks can be found there now. [I > believe this is also where ACLs are stored but don't quote me on this] > > Why does a file need to be like a directory? Isn't that what > directories are for? :) > > Dave