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From: Uriel <uriell@binarydream.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] restructuring of plan9 pages - why?
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On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 06:36:33PM -0800, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> here is another example: the link to glenda art work.  why
> play games?
That has always been thru the glenda image in the main page, but I admit
that an artwork wiki page would be nice to have now that there are a few
other bits of artwork that are not in the static page.
 
> regarding outside pages and keeping the links alive, i might
> understand the frustration, but you need to trust the community to
> keep them updated.
Hey, it's _me_ that has been trying to get all the static bitrotted
stuff off from other places and into the wiki so the community can
maintain it; and it's russ who doesn't trust the community to keep
things sane in the wiki.

Of course his concerns are well justified given who works the most on
the wiki...

> the links were part of the wiki pages.  
The links are still part of the wiki page, many of them have been down
for months in a row, apparently the ones that are left seem to be up now,
but who knows for how long?

The other day I spent almost a whole evening running a script on the
whole wiki scanning for broken links and then going thru them trying to
fix them, there were quite a few and it was a quite painful process, and
a few are still left because I couldn't fix them or remove them.

Oh, and the main reason to have all code in sources is so that when one
is looking for something, one knows where to look, before one had to go
jumping from page to page and maybe by pure luck one would find
something useful.

(Not to mention that those are all web pages, and what a PIA is to
browse from Plan 9)

> it is not one person's job; and yes, we do care.
It's one person doing it, and before that it was nobody doing it(I would
tell you to look at the history of the wiki pages, but that has been
wiped out).

uriel