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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu, Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] fuse bashing
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:31:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060125013144.B3BE778FBB@dexter-peak.quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060125002544.GA8690@ionkov.net>


On Tue Jan 24 18:24:33 CST 2006, lucho@gmx.net wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 02:10:41PM -0600, quanstro@quanstro.net said:
> > On Mon Jan 23 20:21:36 CST 2006, lucho@gmx.net wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:06:09PM -0500, Russ Cox said:
> > > > It appears to match the kernel better, so the implementation
> > > > should be simpler.  (As soon as you want to talk between
> > > 
> > > It is much simpler (and probably faster), and that's a big win for FUSE:
> > > 
> > > 	$ cat fs/fuse/*.[ch] | wc -l
> > > 	4073
> > > 
> > > 	$ cat 9p/*.[ch] | wc -l
> > > 	7271
> > 
> > why do you assume that line count is porportinal to
> > speed of execution or complexity?
> 
> Because it doesn't need to convert an alien protocol to Linux VFS. It
> doesn't need to care about converting error strings to error codes,
> architecture independent format for the values etc.

even so, these sound like simple translations. they may produce more
code, but i'm not sure they add complexity.

> It doesn't need to care
> about unix and tcp sockets. In fact I tested the speed of fuse+fusexmpl
> compared with v9fs+u9fs, and fuse is noticeably faster.

why didn't you say so? ;-)

i don't use u9fs; was there any indication that v9fs in the kernel was slow?
have you tried any p9p fileservers? tapefs seemed speedy enough:

; 9p ls tapefs
--rw-r--r-- M 0 1000 100 6749246 Feb  5  1998 cyberbit.zip
; time 9p read tapefs/cyberbit.zip > /dev/null
0.18user 0.20system 0:01.07elapsed 36%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+404minor)pagefaults 0swaps

; time cat 9/tapefs/cyberbit.zip > /dev/null
0.00user 0.01system 0:01.15elapsed 1%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (0major+146minor)pagefaults 0swaps

> 
> If FUSE doesn't handle the interrupts well, that in part explains why is it
> smaller. The proper signal handling is one of the most complex parts in v9fs.
> 
> Thanks,
>         Lucho


  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-25  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-24 20:10 quanstro
2006-01-24 21:37 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2006-01-24 23:14   ` Charles Forsyth
2006-01-25  0:26   ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-01-25  0:25 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-01-25  1:31   ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2006-01-25  1:40     ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-01-25  1:42       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
     [not found] <000001c620ca$f86f1570$14aaa8c0@utelsystems.local>
2006-01-24  9:46 ` "Nils O. Selåsdal"
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-23 17:06 Russ Cox
2006-01-23 17:28 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-23 17:44   ` David Leimbach
2006-01-23 18:07   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2006-01-23 18:13     ` Bruce Ellis
2006-01-23 20:31   ` David Leimbach
2006-01-23 20:33     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-23 23:28       ` Dan Cross
2006-01-23 23:53         ` David Leimbach
2006-01-24  0:07         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-25 19:58         ` Enache Adrian
2006-01-25 20:30           ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-01-25 20:51             ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-25 21:09               ` Bruce Ellis
2006-01-25 20:50           ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-25 21:09             ` Enache Adrian
2006-01-24  0:12       ` John Barham
2006-01-25  5:29       ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-01-25 15:38         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-25 21:31           ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-01-26  1:16           ` erik quanstrom
2006-01-25  5:30       ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-01-25  7:46         ` Jack Johnson
2006-01-25  8:11           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-01-25  8:18             ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-01-25  9:46             ` Andriy G. Tereshchenko
2006-01-25 15:45         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-23 17:51 ` C H Forsyth
2006-01-23 17:46   ` David Leimbach
2006-01-23 20:08     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-01-23 18:46   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-01-24  2:22 ` Latchesar Ionkov
2006-01-24  8:37   ` Charles Forsyth
2006-01-24  9:41     ` Charles Forsyth
2006-01-24 10:04       ` Charles Forsyth

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