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From: bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Clearing venti arena during install
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:23:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060327002355.F4015294E8@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:09:15 EST." <f3a044b2e13339d9f22c5aeb43cc9aa2@swtch.com>

> > If fossil+venti is chosen during installation, the entire
> > venti arena partition is cleared.  Is there a way to avoid
> > clearing all of the arena space?  Since in a sense it is an
> > append only log, and the purpose for clearing it is,
> > presumably, to allow recreating the index, may be a shortcut
> > exists?  Doing so will save a lot of time and space
> > particularly on a qemu VM.  In qemu one can use a sparse file
> > or a qcow format file which allocates space only for data
> > actually written.  Writing even zeroes can eat up space.
>
> Any sparse file worth its salt would catch the case
> where you write zeros to a hole and not do anything.

Creating a hole is as easy as seeking beyond the end of a
file and scribbling something but maintaining its holeyness
by checking every write for a block of zeroes is quite
expensive.

> That said, I'd rather leave the zeroing in for now.
> The new venti, which I am testing on Plan 9 right now,
> does not require the zeroing.

This is a much better solution -- I didn't realize this was
imminent.  Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-27  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-26 21:04 bakul+plan9
2006-03-27  0:09 ` Russ Cox
2006-03-27  0:23   ` bakul+plan9 [this message]
2006-03-27  0:30     ` Russ Cox
2006-03-27  0:33     ` Russ Cox
2006-03-27  0:52       ` geoff
2006-03-27  0:57         ` Russ Cox
2006-03-27  1:23           ` Bakul Shah
2006-04-17  9:57 ` Lluís Batlle i Rossell

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