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From: Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] new compilers
Date: Sun,  2 Apr 2006 21:17:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200604021817.k32IHO4U011991@skeeve.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2afc30c8b36e542ca0a16fc6f4e4c1a3@plan9.bell-labs.com>

In article <2afc30c8b36e542ca0a16fc6f4e4c1a3@plan9.bell-labs.com> you write:
>>> P.S.  This doesn't mean I'll ever *forgive* Andy Tannenbaum for spurring
>>> the creation of Linux.
>
>This is how myths are born.  Andy Tanenbaum (one n) had nothing to do with
>Linux.  He started Minix.  Maybe the existence of Minix played a role in Linus'
>decision to start Linux, maybe not.
>
>	Sape

Ah, but he did. There were TONS of people begging Andy to make Minix
do virtual memory on 386 hardware and also to loosen up somewhat on the
licensing. He would do neither.

As a result, there were a huge number of people frothing at the mouth to
just hack on *something, anything* that would run on a 386, so when Linus
released his toy, the world jumped in.

There were also later exchanges between Andy and Linux about microkernel
vs. macrokernel etc.  One could probably still find all this on Google
were one really interested.

It may also help to remember that commercial Unix for 386 was several
hundred dollars a pop, for a binary-only copy, and that was SVR3 or
SVR4, not very exciting to people used to hacking on BSD Unix. (Plus
maybe some additional $$ for a compiler!)

Arnold


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-02 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  0:40 erik quanstrom
2006-03-28 17:52 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-28 18:15   ` Bakul Shah
2006-03-28 18:29     ` Sape Mullender
2006-03-28 18:52       ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 19:13         ` [9fans] [OT] hypothetical questions Russ Cox
2006-03-28 19:28           ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-28 20:26             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-03-28 21:18               ` Lou Kamenov
2006-03-29  6:14                 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-28 19:41           ` David Leimbach
2006-03-28 19:15         ` [9fans] new compilers Victor Nazarov
2006-03-28 19:22           ` [9fans] [OT] linus, the early years Charles Forsyth
2006-03-28 20:07             ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 16:33           ` [9fans] new compilers Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 16:49             ` [9fans] [OT] linux origins, why not? Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 18:04               ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-29 18:45                 ` Federico G. Benavento
2006-03-29 19:41                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-03-29 23:27                 ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30  0:38                   ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:29                     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:40                       ` quanstro
2006-03-30  1:55                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-03-30  2:13                         ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-03-30  4:26                         ` jmk
2006-03-30 16:08                         ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 16:02                       ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 18:14                     ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-03-30 12:46                   ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-30 13:43                     ` Richard Miller
2006-03-30 13:49                       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-29 18:20               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-29 18:58                 ` Victor Nazarov
2006-03-29 23:16               ` lucio
2006-03-30  2:00                 ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-03-30  5:06                   ` lucio
2006-03-29 21:17             ` [9fans] new compilers Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-03-29 21:44               ` Wes Kussmaul
2006-04-02 18:17       ` Aharon Robbins [this message]
2006-04-02 18:33         ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-02 19:47         ` lucio
2006-04-02 20:12           ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-04-02 20:16             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  4:35               ` lucio
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` George Michaelson
2006-04-03  6:45                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  5:38                 ` LiteStar numnums
2006-04-03  8:31                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-04-03  9:36                   ` uriel
2006-04-03 12:50                     ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-04-03  9:39                   ` lucio
2006-04-03 13:46                 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-03 14:30                 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-03 16:02                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-03 20:41                     ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-03 21:02                       ` uriel
2006-04-03 21:32                         ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-03 23:42                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  0:29                           ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-04  5:02                             ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04  3:15                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  3:28                         ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-04  6:31                           ` David Leimbach
2006-04-04  4:21                         ` lucio
2006-04-05  1:00                         ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-05  4:35                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-04 12:31                       ` rog
2006-04-03  3:17           ` plan9
2006-04-03  4:17             ` lucio
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-03 22:54 erik quanstrom
2006-03-31 14:42 erik quanstrom
2006-03-31 13:27 erik quanstrom
2006-03-31 14:47 ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 12:31 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2006-03-31 12:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31 13:23 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31 14:42   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31  9:17 Fco. J. Ballesteros
2006-03-31  9:40 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  9:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  9:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31  9:46 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31  9:48   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  9:56     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31 10:01       ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 10:03       ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31 10:08         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31 14:58       ` David Leimbach
2006-03-31 15:01         ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 22:02 ` Taj Khattra
2006-04-03 16:21 ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-03 17:17   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-04-03 19:01     ` Artem Letko
2006-04-03 19:22       ` Paul Lalonde
2006-03-30 20:14 Steve Simon
2006-03-29  1:18 erik quanstrom
2006-03-28  0:30 erik quanstrom
2006-03-25 13:56 Russ Cox
2006-03-25 19:48 ` David Leimbach
2006-03-25 19:53   ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-25 19:59     ` David Leimbach
2006-03-25 20:02   ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-25 21:25     ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-25 21:28     ` quanstro
2006-03-25 21:33       ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-25 22:42         ` quanstro
2006-03-25 22:46         ` quanstro
2006-03-26  1:46           ` jmk
2006-03-26  2:52             ` quanstro
2006-03-26  8:14               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-26  8:41                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-03-26 17:06                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-26 17:00             ` David Leimbach
2006-03-27 17:31             ` rog
2006-03-27 19:01               ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-27 19:15                 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-03-27 19:21                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-30 17:41                   ` rog
2006-03-30 17:44                     ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 18:24                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 17:51                     ` Christoph Lohmann
2006-03-30 17:54                       ` Sape Mullender
2006-03-30 18:30                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 18:43                           ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-03-30 18:48                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 18:51                               ` Gabriel Diaz
2006-03-30 18:51                             ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 21:00                           ` Bakul Shah
2006-03-30 23:16                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 23:23                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-31  6:16                               ` uriel
2006-03-31  7:56                           ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31  9:04                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-03-30 23:32                         ` Adrian Tritschler
2006-03-30 17:57                       ` rog
2006-03-30 18:27                         ` rog
2006-03-30 20:46                           ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-03-31  1:15                             ` Steve Simon
2006-03-31  1:24                               ` Russ Cox
2006-03-31  2:00                               ` Joel Salomon
2006-03-31  2:26                               ` Martin C. Atkins
2006-03-31  8:46                                 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-31  8:49                                   ` Bruce Ellis
2006-03-31 21:40                                 ` Taj Khattra
2006-03-31  4:24                             ` Jack Johnson
2006-03-31  4:33                               ` veritosproject
2006-03-30 17:58                       ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 18:03                       ` jmk
2006-03-30 18:13                         ` Brantley Coile
2006-03-30 18:57                       ` Burton Samograd
2006-03-30 19:15                         ` David Leimbach
2006-03-30 19:22                           ` Charles Forsyth
2006-03-30 19:29                             ` Rob Pike
2006-03-30 19:58                               ` David Leimbach

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