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From: Roman Shaposhnick <rvs@sun.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] impressive
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:53:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060426005301.GF27116@submarine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc39734bed5352393b40f65a344378c2@quanstro.net>

On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 07:26:56PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> gcc 4 can be c99 compliant.
>
> 	gcc '--std=c99' $*
>
> but that doesn't mean that they removed the extensions.
>
> linux is dependent on inline assembly, for example.  (i'm not sure why they
> think it necessiary.)  so a number of their extensions won't go away.  in fact,
> other compilers, like tcc, feel compelled to replicate gnu extensions.

  As a guy who started a port of Sun's compilers to Linux I must attest that
  glibc design is really bad when it comes to GNUisms. While porting I was
  treated to all sorts of junk there: incorrect C language constructs
  (_G_config.h: _G_iconv_t has a flexible array member as a non last member of
  the union), blatant GNUisms which break anything that doesn't explicitly claim
  to be __GNUC__ (dirent.h: take a look at readdir/readdir64 and ponder on
  what happens when #define readdir readdir64 kicks in but the actual
  structure remains to be dirent) and finally my favorite -- mismatched curly
  brackets in bits/mathcalls.h (around line 356) when a C++ compiler doesn't
  want to lie about being __USE_ISOC99.

  The worst of it is -- on a number of occasions glibc developers stated
  that they have no interest in supporting compilers other than gcc.

  That's precisely why everybody nowdays has to implement gcc quircks and
  pretend to be one by __GNUC__ :-(

Thanks,
Roman.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-04-26  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-26  0:26 erik quanstrom
2006-04-26  0:48 ` geoff
2006-04-26  0:54   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26  0:53 ` Roman Shaposhnick [this message]
2006-04-26  2:15   ` Taj Khattra
2006-04-26  4:59     ` David Leimbach
2006-04-26 12:37       ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-26 15:28     ` Rian Hunter
2006-04-26 16:39     ` Micah Stetson
2006-04-26 18:02       ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-26 20:14         ` Micah Stetson
2006-05-08 14:50       ` Harri Haataja
2006-05-08 15:04         ` LiteStar numnums
2006-05-08 15:12           ` Charles Forsyth
2006-05-08 20:08             ` Micah Stetson
2006-05-08 20:52             ` LiteStar numnums
2006-05-08 21:10               ` Jack Johnson
2006-05-08 21:17                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-05-08 21:18                 ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-08 22:25                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2006-05-09 21:56                   ` Dave Eckhardt
2006-05-10  0:13                     ` geoff
2006-05-10  8:39                       ` Lluís Batlle
2006-05-08 23:31                 ` geoff
2006-05-09  1:18                   ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-09  1:39                     ` quanstro
2006-05-09  2:12                       ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-09  2:20                         ` quanstro
2006-05-09  3:00                           ` Paul Lalonde
2006-05-09  9:32                             ` Bruce Ellis
2006-04-26 22:57     ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26  4:57 ` David Leimbach
2006-04-26  4:53   ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-26  5:11     ` Roman Shaposhnick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-10  0:45 erik quanstrom
2006-05-10  2:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-05-10  3:35   ` David Arnold
2006-05-10  4:03     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2006-05-08 22:02 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27  2:13 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27  1:35 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27  1:23 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27  5:08 ` Micah Stetson
2006-04-27  1:10 erik quanstrom
2006-04-27  2:06 ` Jack Johnson
2006-04-26  3:24 jmk
2006-04-26  2:38 erik quanstrom
2006-04-26  0:55 erik quanstrom
2006-04-26  1:07 ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-25 10:20 erik quanstrom
2006-04-25  2:30 erik quanstrom
2006-04-25  2:48 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-24 20:37 Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-24 20:51 ` Charles Forsyth
2006-04-24 21:32 ` Brantley Coile
2006-04-25 11:06   ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-25 11:08     ` Anthony Sorace
2006-04-25  2:15 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25  2:23   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-25  2:37     ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25  3:51       ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-25  8:17         ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25 17:53           ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26  1:11             ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-26  1:19               ` Roman Shaposhnick
2006-04-26  2:12                 ` Derek Fawcus
2006-04-25  3:02   ` Andy Newman
2006-04-25  3:13     ` Ronald G Minnich
2006-04-25 19:57     ` Dan Cross

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