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Date: Fri,  9 Jun 2006 05:40:05 -0700
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From: "Corey" <corey_s@qwest.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] gcc on plan9
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On Thursday 08 June 2006 21:00, quanstro@quanstro.net wrote:
> On Thu Jun  8 12:23:51 CDT 2006, corey_s@qwest.net wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 June 2006 00:08, cej@gli.cas.cz wrote:
> > > IMHO, I don't see any advantage in having gnustep/openstep/nextstep
> > > stuff (except, maybe, displayPS/PDF), on Plan9.
> > 
> > C has something called a Standard Library, it provides lots of useful
> > things when programming in C.
> > 
> > Imagine how outlandish it would sound if you said that you "don't see 
> > any advantage in having C99 stuff on Plan 9"?
> 
> this doesn't make any sense to me.  
>

Whoops, understandable! - I typed "C99", when I meant "libc".


> while kenc supports most c99, some c99 
> bits were excluded on purpose.  can you name a specific c99 bit and explain
> why it's inclusion in plan9 would make plan 9 better?
> 

Again, my mistake - I accidently crossed-wires by mentioning c99; when the
point I was trying make was to draw the parralel/similarity between C and libc, 
and Obj-C and GNUstep ( or FoundationKit, or whatever ).

To flog the proverbally dead horse - if one were toying with the idea of objc-c 
on Plan 9, it is logical that one would also desire to - of course! - have some
form of complementary, functionality-enhancing and/or convienience libraries
to better fulfill the usefulness of the obj-c language itself; and that bringing, 
say, the GNUstep _core_ Libraries ( not a plethora of userland apps! ), will 
not somehow cause the kitchen sink of nasty GNU/Linux practices to get pulled
in along with it.

I think what happened here, is that, when I said "GNUstep", people heard:
"X11", 'nuff said.  

I don't want X11 on Plan 9; and I don't want Linux on Plan 9. 

I don't even necessarily want "GNU" on Plan 9 ( although I'm not downright 
hostile to GNU, as -seems-  to be the general consensus here on 9fans!, heheh ).


I'd just like to use this space to thank everyone's patience, and to apologize if
I managed to inadvertently ruffle-feathers or cause annoyance - I hope it can be
seen that I'm being sincere, and that I do appreciate the opportunity to risk
bouncing some semi half-baked ideas off the experts and professionals here
on this list in a friendly manner; as I've mentioned before, quite honestly: I'm 
merely a hobbyist and OS enthusiast.  

An extremely interesting platform such as Plan 9 is _bound_ to occasionally 
draw the attention of folks like myself.


Cheers,

Corey