* [9fans] Ideas??? @ 2006-09-17 12:21 tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:24 ` Sascha Retzki 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 618 bytes --] Hi there.... I'm new to plan 9. I am in the Final year of my bachelor's degree and i wanted to know that is there any idea or anything in plan 9, which i can take up as a Final Year Project. I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... Please, do suggest me somethhing... which is feasible to be done in 5-6 months... "Argue for your limitations... And sure enough, they are yours!" --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1178 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:21 [9fans] Ideas??? tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:24 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 12:28 ` tushar mahule 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... > graphicssupport for acme! :) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:24 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 12:28 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:34 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-18 16:13 ` Ronald G Minnich 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 688 bytes --] Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a immediate reply... But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9??? Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: > I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... > graphicssupport for acme! :) "Argue for your limitations... And sure enough, they are yours!" --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1466 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:28 ` tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:34 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 12:41 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:44 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-18 16:13 ` Ronald G Minnich 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a immediate reply... > > But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. Oh, okay. There is the sparc64 port which needs some love, for instance. :-) What about something which comes with complete 'layers' of stuff, like AC97 (this software-audio stuff)? There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the listarchive has the details)... > > I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9? What do you mean by 'profile(r)'? > > Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: >> I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... >> > > graphicssupport for acme! :) > > > > > > > "Argue for your limitations... > And sure enough, they are yours!" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:34 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 12:41 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 13:03 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 20:05 ` Paweł Lasek 2006-09-17 12:44 ` tushar mahule 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1751 bytes --] Hi Sascha, Profiler is a tool that monitors all the CPU happenings(time taken, resources used etc..) while a OS activity(like i/o acceess etc..) is being executed and reports them in a detailed user friendly way... It is generally used in the development stage to improve the efficiency of the code, depending upon the reports generated. Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: > Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a immediate reply... > > But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. Oh, okay. There is the sparc64 port which needs some love, for instance. :-) What about something which comes with complete 'layers' of stuff, like AC97 (this software-audio stuff)? There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the listarchive has the details)... > > I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9? What do you mean by 'profile(r)'? > > Sascha Retzki wrote: >> I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... >> > > graphicssupport for acme! :) > > > > > > > "Argue for your limitations... > And sure enough, they are yours!" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. "Argue for your limitations... And sure enough, they are yours!" --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2657 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:41 ` tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 13:03 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 15:31 ` Russ Cox 2006-09-17 20:05 ` Paweł Lasek 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > Hi Sascha, > > Profiler is a tool that monitors all the CPU happenings(time taken, resources used etc..) while a OS activity(like i/o acceess etc..) is being executed and reports them in a detailed user friendly way... > > It is generally used in the development stage to improve the efficiency of the code, depending upon the reports generated. > May be interesting, alongside with print() and debuggers. > Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: > Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a immediate reply... >> >> But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. > > Oh, okay. There is the sparc64 port which needs some love, for instance. :-) > > What about something which comes with complete 'layers' of stuff, like AC97 (this software-audio stuff)? > > There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the listarchive has the details)... > >> >> I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9? > > What do you mean by 'profile(r)'? > >> >> Sascha Retzki wrote: >>> I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... >>> >> >> graphicssupport for acme! :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Argue for your limitations... >> And sure enough, they are yours!" >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > "Argue for your limitations... > And sure enough, they are yours!" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 13:03 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 15:31 ` Russ Cox 2006-09-17 20:49 ` geoff 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2006-09-17 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs There is no support for USB 2.0 controllers. It would be very nice to have support for them and thus be able to run USB devices at higher speeds. There is already a kernel profiler, kprof. Russ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 15:31 ` Russ Cox @ 2006-09-17 20:49 ` geoff 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: geoff @ 2006-09-17 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans There is interest here in better USB support. Charles has sent us an OHCI driver that needs to be adapted to fit devusb. We now have some AMD terminals with OHCI and EHCI, so we have both incentive and opportunity to make these interfaces and USB 2 work. I won't get to it until I'm done with file server migration. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:41 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 13:03 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 20:05 ` Paweł Lasek 2006-09-17 20:10 ` John Floren 2006-09-17 20:34 ` [9fans] Ideas??? erik quanstrom 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paweł Lasek @ 2006-09-17 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 9/17/06, tushar mahule <tusharmahule@yahoo.com> wrote: If you need ideas for lower-level stuff... * IEEE1394a/b device driver (OHCI interface first), allowing to write fileservers supporting different kind of devices... * sbp2 client (maybe host?) * IP/Ethernet over 1394 * Adaptec aic78xx driver..... * port mplayer?? It's ugly code, but it works, and it works pretty fast ;-D Of non-programming stuff: * Stop using HTML in e-mails. It shows either: lack of good manners, lack of netiquette in your computer education, general stupidity or mistake. I wish for last case, suspect second one. (But please don't start a flamewar on this...). Those nice fonts looks screwed there (and my monitor has blue = 0 always....) ;-) -- Paul Lasek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 20:05 ` Paweł Lasek @ 2006-09-17 20:10 ` John Floren 2006-09-18 9:32 ` Harri Haataja 2006-09-18 13:15 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 20:34 ` [9fans] Ideas??? erik quanstrom 1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: John Floren @ 2006-09-17 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 9/17/06, Paweł Lasek <pawel.lasek@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/17/06, tushar mahule <tusharmahule@yahoo.com> wrote: > > If you need ideas for lower-level stuff... > > * IEEE1394a/b device driver (OHCI interface first), allowing to write > fileservers supporting different kind of devices... > * sbp2 client (maybe host?) > * IP/Ethernet over 1394 > * Adaptec aic78xx driver..... > * port mplayer?? It's ugly code, but it works, and it works pretty fast ;-D > > Of non-programming stuff: > * Stop using HTML in e-mails. It shows either: lack of good manners, > lack of netiquette in your computer education, general stupidity or > mistake. I wish for last case, suspect second one. (But please don't > start a flamewar on this...). > > Those nice fonts looks screwed there (and my monitor has blue = 0 > always....) ;-) > > > -- > Paul Lasek > I second the mplayer vote, because it's possibly the best (from a user's perspective, I don't know what the code is like) media player I've ever used. However, before mplayer is useful, I think we kinda need some more sound drivers. John -- "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers" -- Shakespeare, Henry VI ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 20:10 ` John Floren @ 2006-09-18 9:32 ` Harri Haataja 2006-09-18 10:54 ` Paweł Lasek 2006-09-18 13:15 ` Sascha Retzki 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Harri Haataja @ 2006-09-18 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 04:10:58PM -0400, John Floren wrote: > On 9/17/06, Pawe? Lasek <pawel.lasek@gmail.com> wrote: > >On 9/17/06, tushar mahule <tusharmahule@yahoo.com> wrote: > >* port mplayer?? It's ugly code, but it works, and it works pretty > >fast ;-D > I second the mplayer vote, because it's possibly the best (from a > user's perspective, I don't know what the code is like) media player > I've ever used. However, before mplayer is useful, I think we kinda > need some more sound drivers. Also, is there hardware accelerated video (scaling!) and fullscreen switching? -- Conquering the galaxy is what bacteria with spaceships would do -- knowing no better, having no choice. -- Greg Egan, "Diaspora" (about alien invasion stories) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-18 9:32 ` Harri Haataja @ 2006-09-18 10:54 ` Paweł Lasek 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Paweł Lasek @ 2006-09-18 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 9/18/06, Harri Haataja <harriha@mail.student.oulu.fi> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 04:10:58PM -0400, John Floren wrote: > > On 9/17/06, Pawe? Lasek <pawel.lasek@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On 9/17/06, tushar mahule <tusharmahule@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >* port mplayer?? It's ugly code, but it works, and it works pretty > > >fast ;-D > > > I second the mplayer vote, because it's possibly the best (from a > > user's perspective, I don't know what the code is like) media player > > I've ever used. However, before mplayer is useful, I think we kinda > > need some more sound drivers. > > Also, is there hardware accelerated video (scaling!) and fullscreen > switching? Theoretically it should be possible to port mplayer's vidix using access to graphics card memory with device files (I don't remember exact files, but there was at least one which allowed to even write pci drivers as filesystems if one wanted to...) Integrating it with rio would be much tougher, but I think that at least vesa driver should be pretty easy to port, considering one finds a suitable way to return control to rio (like the need for "reset" on linux vt after using mplayer's -vo vesa). > -- > Conquering the galaxy is what bacteria with spaceships would do -- > knowing no better, having no choice. > -- Greg Egan, "Diaspora" (about alien invasion stories) > -- Paul Lasek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 20:10 ` John Floren 2006-09-18 9:32 ` Harri Haataja @ 2006-09-18 13:15 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-18 14:32 ` Axel Belinfante 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-18 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans >> * port mplayer?? It's ugly code, but it works, and it works pretty fast ;-D >> >> > > I second the mplayer vote, because it's possibly the best (from a > user's perspective, I don't know what the code is like) media player > I've ever used. However, before mplayer is useful, I think we kinda > need some more sound drivers. > > John Mmmhh, man 7 juke # juke(7) man 7 playlistfs # playlistfs(7) I have not yet looked deeply enough into those, but as far as I recall, you create a decoder for each file-type as an external program. I have no idea how things like fast-forward/backward work, for instance (pause, etc). And I have no idea how I easily create playlists. It's shell magic for mplayer, and GUIs using mplayer may also provide ways - as I read the manpages, I am supposed to write maps myself. :-( Supposed those things are easily done, 'porting mplayer' becomes 'port the codecs, create a decoder for each of those'. At least for the audio-part. But imho it works for video, too. Speaking of those manpages, what is audio(7)? I don't have that manpage. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-18 13:15 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-18 14:32 ` Axel Belinfante 2006-09-18 14:53 ` Sascha Retzki 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Axel Belinfante @ 2006-09-18 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > man 7 juke # juke(7) > man 7 playlistfs # playlistfs(7) > > I have not yet looked deeply enough into those, but as far as I recall, > you create a decoder for each file-type as an external program. right. > I have no idea how things like fast-forward/backward work, for instance they don't, as far as I know. > (pause, etc). stop/continue reading from the decoder, I think. > And I have no idea how I easily create playlists. > It's shell magic for mplayer, and GUIs using mplayer > may also provide ways - as I read the manpages, > I am supposed to write maps myself. :-( it is possible to generate (template) maps. either when you get the music from cd (readcd does this) or using the tags that are present in (e.g.) mp3 files. > Supposed those things are easily done, 'porting mplayer' > becomes 'port the codecs, create a decoder for each of those'. > At least for the audio-part. But imho it works for video, too. > > > Speaking of those manpages, what is audio(7)? I don't have that manpage. since audio(7) is not there, intro(7) makes me guess that will be about 'proprietary data that is not distributed outside Bell Laboratories'. Axel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-18 14:32 ` Axel Belinfante @ 2006-09-18 14:53 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-18 17:48 ` Axel Belinfante 2006-09-18 19:30 ` Axel Belinfante 0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-18 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans >> man 7 juke # juke(7) >> man 7 playlistfs # playlistfs(7) >> >> I have not yet looked deeply enough into those, but as far as I recall, >> you create a decoder for each file-type as an external program. > > right. > >> I have no idea how things like fast-forward/backward work, for instance > > they don't, as far as I know. > Too bad, imho. Can one pass notes to APE-programs? Sure you can, but is there noted() etc? >> (pause, etc). > > stop/continue reading from the decoder, I think. Ah, so they read stdout and pass that to /dev/audio then. hm. > >> And I have no idea how I easily create playlists. >> It's shell magic for mplayer, and GUIs using mplayer >> may also provide ways - as I read the manpages, >> I am supposed to write maps myself. :-( > > it is possible to generate (template) maps. > either when you get the music from cd (readcd does this) > or using the tags that are present in (e.g.) mp3 files. As I recall you need a map to actually start up playlistfs/juke*, so how does one start? Can you give an example? :) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-18 14:53 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-18 17:48 ` Axel Belinfante 2006-09-18 19:30 ` Axel Belinfante 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Axel Belinfante @ 2006-09-18 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > >> And I have no idea how I easily create playlists. > >> It's shell magic for mplayer, and GUIs using mplayer > >> may also provide ways - as I read the manpages, > >> I am supposed to write maps myself. :-( > > > > it is possible to generate (template) maps. > > either when you get the music from cd (readcd does this) > > or using the tags that are present in (e.g.) mp3 files. > > As I recall you need a map to actually start up playlistfs/juke*, > so how does one start? Can you give an example? :) I think you were the one who mentioned > >> man 7 juke # juke(7) it does contain an example. it can be even simpler, something like below, where you just follow the file system hierarchy. the following assumes that the actual files are like /some/path/mp3/groupdirname/albumdirname/01_some_name.ogg etc. (I used anyrhines audio/ogg-vorbis stuff) work { some name path {/some/path/mp3} command {sort} work { group path {groupdirname} command {sort} work { album title path {albumdirname} command {sort} track { 02 name of second track file {02_second_track.ogg} } track { 01 name of first track file {01_some_name.ogg} } ... } } } if you put the tracks of the album in the right order you can leave out the innermost 'command {sort}'. however, the real power of the maps comes from being able to use arbitrary attributes. for example, i have run a script over my map that adds something like the permuted index that we have for the manual pages, by shifting names/titles around, such that you track { artist = Fay~Lovsky artistpF = Fay~Lovsky artistpL = Lovsky~~--~~Fay title = Christmas~Was~A~Friend~Of~Mine titlepC = Christmas~Was~A~Friend~Of~Mine titlepW = Was~A~Friend~Of~Mine~~--~~Christmas titlepF = Friend~Of~Mine~~--~~Christmas~Was~A titlepO = Of~Mine~~--~~Christmas~Was~A~Friend titlepM = Mine~~--~~Christmas~Was~A~Friend~Of Fay·Lovsky·-·Christmas·Was·A·Friend·Of·Mine file {Fay·Lovsky·-·Christmas·Was·A·Friend·Of·Mine.mp3} } (in the 'name=value' lines ~ denotes a space) this allows you to 'sort' your data on any word from title or name. I split the permuted title and artist indexs on first letter, because they would be to big otherwise, hence the artistpF, artistpL etc. of course, it should be possible to write something that, to juke, offers the same interface as jukefs, but does not read the maps but just takes the structure of the filesystem instead. Axel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-18 14:53 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-18 17:48 ` Axel Belinfante @ 2006-09-18 19:30 ` Axel Belinfante 2006-09-19 13:43 ` juke - does it need some love? (was: Re: [9fans] Ideas???) Sascha Retzki 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Axel Belinfante @ 2006-09-18 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [I'm reposting this (slightly edited) after a first post seemed not to have made it through. I'm sorry if this is just a duplicate after all] > >> And I have no idea how I easily create playlists. > >> It's shell magic for mplayer, and GUIs using mplayer > >> may also provide ways - as I read the manpages, > >> I am supposed to write maps myself. :-( > > it is possible to generate (template) maps. > > either when you get the music from cd (readcd does this) > > or using the tags that are present in (e.g.) mp3 files. > As I recall you need a map to actually start up playlistfs/juke*, > so how does one start? Can you give an example? :) I think you were the one who mentioned > >> man 7 juke # juke(7) :-) juke(7) does contain an example. it can be even simpler, something like below, where you just follow the file system hierarchy. the following assumes that the actual files are like /some/path/to/music/groupdirname/albumdirname/01_some_name.ogg etc. (I used anyrhines audio/ogg-vorbis stuff) work { some name you invent yourself path {/some/path/to/music} command {sort} work { group name path {groupdirname} command {sort} work { album title path {albumdirname} command {sort} track { 02 name of second track file {02_second_track.ogg} } track { 01 name of first track file {01_some_name.ogg} } ... } } } if you put the tracks of the album in the right order you can leave out the innermost 'command {sort}'. however, the real power of the maps comes from being able to use arbitrary attributes. this allows you to browse your music via various 'angles'. for example, the juke(1) example allows you to browse also by compose, orchestra and conductor. (some time ago I played a bit with the source of the juke gui to improve the 'hyperlinking' you can get by 'clicking through' the various attributes shown for each item (song). i.e. you see the song that is playing. it has among the attributes: soloist=blup . you click on it and now get are in the view by solist, seeing the items that have solist blup. you pick one, and it has among the attributes: composer=mahler . you click on that and are in the view by composer, seeing the items that have composer mahler. etc. and from the view of items of soloist blup you can go up to see all soloists. etc. don't recall how much it differs from the distribution - i haven't used it for quite some time.) another use of attributes is the following: i have run a script over my map that adds something like the permuted index that we have for the manual pages, by shifting names/titles around, which allows browsing by any word in title or artist. track { artist = Fay~Lovsky artistpF = Fay~Lovsky artistpL = Lovsky~~--~~Fay title = Christmas~Was~A~Friend~Of~Mine titlepC = Christmas~Was~A~Friend~Of~Mine titlepW = Was~A~Friend~Of~Mine~~--~~Christmas titlepF = Friend~Of~Mine~~--~~Christmas~Was~A titlepO = Of~Mine~~--~~Christmas~Was~A~Friend titlepM = Mine~~--~~Christmas~Was~A~Friend~Of Fay Lovsky -- Christmas Was A Friend Of Mine file {Fay_Lovsky-Christmas_Was_A_Friend_Of_Mine.mp3} } (in the 'name=value' lines ~ denotes a space) this allows you to 'sort' your data on any word from title or name. I split the permuted title and artist indexs on first letter, because they would be to big otherwise, hence the artistpF, artistpL etc. I have added two scripts (one to generate a map from 'du -a' output, one to permute a map as discussed above) 'as is' on sources in contrib/axel/music. they are not polished. they are in perl. of course, it should be possible to write something that, to juke, offers the same interface as jukefs, but does not read the maps but just takes the structure of the filesystem instead. Axel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* juke - does it need some love? (was: Re: [9fans] Ideas???) 2006-09-18 19:30 ` Axel Belinfante @ 2006-09-19 13:43 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-20 1:12 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-19 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > I have added two scripts (one to generate a map from 'du -a' output, > one to permute a map as discussed above) 'as is' on sources in > contrib/axel/music. they are not polished. they are in perl. Actually that's my point. One should be able, by a script and/or by GUI (exec()), to create a map-file by pointing to $home/music/something. I may try to understand your script and convert it to rc(1) - I would love to have the result in the distribution. (Btw, I will fail at understanding it, it is perl ^^) I will also look more deeply into the idea of using notes for the decoders to control them. Imho, that's the right way. Comments? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: juke - does it need some love? (was: Re: [9fans] Ideas???) 2006-09-19 13:43 ` juke - does it need some love? (was: Re: [9fans] Ideas???) Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-20 1:12 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2006-09-20 1:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans i'm sure i've heard that's all you need. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 20:05 ` Paweł Lasek 2006-09-17 20:10 ` John Floren @ 2006-09-17 20:34 ` erik quanstrom 1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2006-09-17 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans maybe you need a better mail reader. i never noticed the html witth ned. ;-) On Sun Sep 17 15:06:35 CDT 2006, pawel.lasek@gmail.com wrote: > Of non-programming stuff: > * Stop using HTML in e-mails. It shows either: lack of good manners, > lack of netiquette in your computer education, general stupidity or > mistake. I wish for last case, suspect second one. (But please don't > start a flamewar on this...). > > Those nice fonts looks screwed there (and my monitor has blue = 0 > always....) ;-) > > > -- > Paul Lasek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:34 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 12:41 ` tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:44 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:54 ` Benn Newman ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1478 bytes --] I also wanted to know how good is the USB support in plan 9????? Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: > Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a immediate reply... > > But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. Oh, okay. There is the sparc64 port which needs some love, for instance. :-) What about something which comes with complete 'layers' of stuff, like AC97 (this software-audio stuff)? There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the listarchive has the details)... > > I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9? What do you mean by 'profile(r)'? > > Sascha Retzki wrote: >> I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... >> > > graphicssupport for acme! :) > > > > > > > "Argue for your limitations... > And sure enough, they are yours!" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. "Argue for your limitations... And sure enough, they are yours!" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2378 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:44 ` tushar mahule @ 2006-09-17 12:54 ` Benn Newman 2006-09-17 13:02 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 18:26 ` erik quanstrom 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Benn Newman @ 2006-09-17 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs You could work on more modern audio drivers. I, for one, do not have a Soundblaster 16. tushar mahule said: > I also wanted to know how good is the USB support in plan 9????? Couldn't tell you. I think the USB on my computer is broken. (one of the ports physically is. > > Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: > Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a > immediate reply... >> >> But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. > > Oh, okay. There is the sparc64 port which needs some love, for instance. > :-) > > What about something which comes with complete 'layers' of stuff, like > AC97 (this software-audio stuff)? > > There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just > because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the > listarchive has the details)... > >> >> I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a >> profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9? > > What do you mean by 'profile(r)'? > >> >> Sascha Retzki wrote: >>> I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to >>> give it back to open source... >>> >> >> graphicssupport for acme! :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Argue for your limitations... >> And sure enough, they are yours!" >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great >> rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > "Argue for your limitations... > And sure enough, they are yours!" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. -- Benn Newman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:44 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:54 ` Benn Newman @ 2006-09-17 13:02 ` Sascha Retzki 2006-09-17 18:26 ` erik quanstrom 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > I also wanted to know how good is the USB support in plan 9????? > It sucks. So it implements usb just fine :) > Sascha Retzki <sretzki@gmx.de> wrote: > Thanks Sascha Retzki, for such a immediate reply... >> >> But, i'm more interested to do memory, drivers etc. > > Oh, okay. There is the sparc64 port which needs some love, for instance. :-) > > What about something which comes with complete 'layers' of stuff, like AC97 (this software-audio stuff)? > > There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the listarchive has the details)... > >> >> I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9? > > What do you mean by 'profile(r)'? > >> >> Sascha Retzki wrote: >>> I mean, it'll be like i get to do something nw and also will be able to give it back to open source... >>> >> >> graphicssupport for acme! :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Argue for your limitations... >> And sure enough, they are yours!" >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > "Argue for your limitations... > And sure enough, they are yours!" > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:44 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:54 ` Benn Newman 2006-09-17 13:02 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-17 18:26 ` erik quanstrom 2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2006-09-17 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans there are at least two sata drivers supported. sdmv50xx -- marvell and the nForce4 southbridge. one version is already supported. i just submitted a patch for the nForce 430. (gigabyte ga-m55plus-s3g motherboard.) - erik On Sun Sep 17 07:49:22 CDT 2006, tusharmahule@yahoo.com wrote: > There is also SATA, I just know of one SATA-controller supported, just because it happen to behave pretty like his grandfather or something (the listarchive has the details)... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-17 12:28 ` tushar mahule 2006-09-17 12:34 ` Sascha Retzki @ 2006-09-18 16:13 ` Ronald G Minnich 2006-09-18 16:49 ` jmk 1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread From: Ronald G Minnich @ 2006-09-18 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs tushar mahule wrote: > > I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a > profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9??? you mean systemtap or something? If you want to do a driver, fix usb ... or the atheros cards. ron ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] Ideas??? 2006-09-18 16:13 ` Ronald G Minnich @ 2006-09-18 16:49 ` jmk 0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread From: jmk @ 2006-09-18 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Mon Sep 18 12:18:29 EDT 2006, rminnich@lanl.gov wrote: > tushar mahule wrote: > > > > I also wanted to know how good it would be if i do something like a > > profiler for a subset of functionalities for plan 9??? > > you mean systemtap or something? > > If you want to do a driver, fix usb ... > > or the atheros cards. > > ron How long has the unfinished Intel Centrino™ driver been sitting waiting for attention? The bulk of what needs to be done is, I think, similar to what needs to be done to make the Atheros cards work - not the low-level hardware details (I sort-of have that for the Atheros cards too) but the 802.11 control above that needs to be done, the handful of ctl messages that sufficed for the old Wavelan world is not enough. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
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