From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Date: Sat,  9 Dec 2006 09:22:14 +0000
From: Markus Sonderegger <msonderegger@aon.at>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Newbie question
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On 10:17 Sat 09 Dec     , sretzki@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I don't like the mouse very much either.  I use it for placing windows
> > and have learned just the basics for working with rio windows and
> > acme until now.
> > 
> > with "vt" you can put a rio terminal into "vt100" mode, and "ape/psh"
> > gives you a Korn Shell, however without emacs and vi editing modes.
> > 
> > Maybe you can get these modes back into psh and feel at home then.
> > 
> 
> Or you just learn the idea behind it all. This 'oh my gawd I must touch a mouse!?!?!?'-drama constantly occuring in the so-called unix-community is at least funny, but can quickly become annoying.
>


I've uesd rio some days now and it's absolut the best gui out there. 
Well thouht out und straight forward.
For me it's no drame to touch the mouse. My question was if it's
possible to use plan9 without rio, like other unixes.



> > 
> > Markus Sonderegger <msonderegger@aon.at> writes:
> > 
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> Thank your for your answers. I've installed Plan9 and tryed rio and
> >> you're right it's much better than other guis. But it absolut not suits
> >> my workstyle. Normaly I doesen't use the mouse.
> >>
> >> What's the idea behind the desicion to have no console? I've read most
> >> of the documention papgers but can't figure it out.
> > ...
> > 
> > The kernel has a minimal console.  It lacks an interrupt key for job
> > control.  rio uses the Del key for job control.  I think it is better
> > to let a userspace application do job control, and not to code
> > functionality for an interrupt key into the kernel.
> > 
> > If I remember correctly, the vt220 terminals had a mode for switching
> > sessions, similar to the virtual consoles in Linux.  With some
> > programming effort it may be possible to open one single maximized
> > window at startup in rio, with a vt220 emulation and a similar
> > functionality.
> > 
> > 
> >     Jorge-Le??n
>