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From: Harri Haataja <harriha@mail.student.oulu.fi>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Again: (self)hosted Plan9? Was: [9fans] extending xen to allow driver development in Plan 9
Date: Thu,  8 Feb 2007 13:46:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070208114606.GG12106@XTL.antioffline.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f130bc76a530f2f6618a33c28beff27@coraid.com>

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 05:52:49PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> i don't see how you can blame hurd's vaporware status
> on switching from mach to l4.  that happened quite reciently.
> they were coding for hurd in 1990.

Adding to the handwaving:

Generally problems in hurd seem to be blamed on the kernel. They say
mach just isn't any good so that didn't work out. I don't know if the l4
thing got anywhere and it seems that at least part of the crowd
(hurd-ng) is now arguing about profound ideas at the moment without any
code trying to figure out how to start a new(?) system without having
ever ro start over again. (<-- that's all just hand-waving, though. ianahd)

If I got the picture, there seems to be one running Hurd
(http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/) and they're not happy with Mach and
aren't continuing. Then there's a number of groups looking for the
alternative. Maybe that's progress, but if the running mach version
doesn't go forward and no new version reaches a running state, the
usable Hurd will seem to be stuck in that state.

-- 
<Murgatroyd> You know you've been playing Nethack too much when...
<Murgatroyd> You look both ways down the corridor, start to sweat... then
realise you're looking at your EMail address.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-08 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-06 22:52 erik quanstrom
2007-02-08 11:46 ` Harri Haataja [this message]
2007-02-08 12:47   ` LiteStar numnums
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-06 21:38 erik quanstrom
2006-12-06 21:55 ` John Floren
2006-12-06 22:31   ` erik quanstrom
2006-12-06 22:38     ` LiteStar numnums
2006-12-07  0:53     ` John Floren
2006-12-07  0:56       ` LiteStar numnums
2006-12-07  1:09         ` John Floren
2006-12-06 16:59 ron minnich
2006-12-06 21:27 ` Again: (self)hosted Plan9? Was: " Georg Lehner

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