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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] 9P optimization
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 20:15:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070623200857.H1471@orthanc.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ccc8ba40706232004t38102644r7d5dd145ee15d026@mail.gmail.com>

> The problem with cfs is that you still suffer the RPC to check for validity.
> With 100ms of RTT, count 5 and you have a second. Also, for synthesized
> files,
> the cache does not save you from doing a walk, open, read.

I'll be accused of being a heretic, but let me claim that much of the
design of IMAP is geared towards avoiding those RTTs for that very reason.
A good IMAP client wins by doing intelligent cacheing, and it gets there
by using the subtle aspects of the protocol that accomodate that.

Much as people slag the protocol, it does work well over slow (high
latency) links, given a client that understands the protocol (sadly, most
don't).

I'm very curious about the efficiency of cfs, but my P9 environment
doesn't have a remote terminal.  It would be interesting to instrument cfs
and collect some stats on the protocol behaviour behind the cache ...

--lyndon


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-24  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-19 20:11 [9fans] About 9P Philippe Anel
2007-06-20  0:37 ` Russ Cox
2007-06-20  2:06   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-06-20 11:29     ` Anthony Sorace
2007-06-22  0:32 ` Derek Fawcus
2007-06-22  6:58   ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 15:57     ` Derek Fawcus
2007-06-22 20:32       ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 21:10         ` David Leimbach
2007-06-22 21:35           ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 21:46             ` David Leimbach
2007-06-22 21:55               ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 22:25                 ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-22 22:57                   ` David Leimbach
2007-06-22 23:01                     ` Anant Narayanan
2007-06-23  4:30                   ` Russ Cox
2007-06-23  5:10                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-23  9:25                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 15:50                         ` Martin Atkins
2007-06-23  6:24                     ` Philippe Anel
2007-06-23 15:00                     ` Rob Pike
2007-06-24  0:52                     ` [9fans] 9P optimization Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24  3:04                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-24  3:15                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2007-06-24  4:08                           ` ron minnich
2007-06-24  9:34                             ` Steve Simon
2007-06-24 10:06                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24 11:38                                 ` Steve Simon
2007-06-24 13:34                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-25  0:34                                     ` ron minnich
2007-06-25 17:53                                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-25  1:02                                 ` Dave Eckhardt
2007-06-24 12:14                             ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-24 13:36                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-24 21:47                                 ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-25 17:48                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2007-06-25 18:46                                     ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-24  4:16                           ` Bruce Ellis
2007-06-24 18:05                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-22 23:20               ` [9fans] About 9P Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-22 23:48                 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23  0:27                   ` Roman Shaposhnick
2007-06-23  0:27                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 12:08                   ` erik quanstrom
2007-06-23 12:27                     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 12:57                     ` Lucio De Re
2007-06-23 13:01                     ` Uriel
2007-06-23 13:36                       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-23 14:27                         ` Lucio De Re
2007-06-23 14:45                           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2007-06-22 21:16         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-06-22 21:37           ` Philippe Anel

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