From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jonathan Cast To: weigelt@metux.de, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Announce: standalone libixp Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:31:29 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20070630153814.GA17008@nibiru.local> <1183434625.10665.77.camel@linux.site> <20070703151059.GA20385@nibiru.local> In-Reply-To: <20070703151059.GA20385@nibiru.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200707031531.31042.jcast@ou.edu> Cc: Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8ff24882-ead2-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > The major problem is the inherent conflict > between marked-based economoy (which IMHO grants the most personal > freedom) and the concept of social wellfare. Both concepts cannot > be merged within one system, since they conflict each other. > But IMHO both concepts are necessary. > > So my idea is to do both things separately. The component of social > wellfare is to give everyone enough money so he can afford evthing > that's needed for life, including a home, food, clothes, communication, > education, healtcare, etc. It's not very hard to calculate an value > for some (well-defined) group of people within some region on the > current marked prices. Simply give the people that value as an > unconditional income, just because they're living Human. The really > most of all "social systems" are immediately unnecessar at that point. > The risk of poverty is immediately eliminated (of course people who > are too sick to care for themselves are an very special and rare case, > they'll need further assistance nevertheless). Additionally we need > a few marked regulations for transparencey and reliability of some > fundamental economic good, ie. insurance contracts w/o pitfalls, etc. > > Once we have ensured the constraint that evryone can afford all things > important for living, we can give almost evrything to the marked. > (leaves only a few implementation details to discuss). Most aspects > of what's currently called basic social care (ie. playschool) can > be done by private institutions. Non-profit ones could play a big > role here. And I thought /I/ was the only one. Have we really gotten to the point in political science where sane ideas can be uttered safely in public? Jonathan Cast http://sourceforge.net/projects/fid-core http://sourceforge.net/projects/fid-emacs