From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@swtch.com>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] signal.h in APE for newbies
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:22:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080704192009.3F69C1E8C7F@holo.morphisms.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74e6c91c9b771978f68b4f7430ae3cc2@terzarima.net>
> vx32 converts SIGFPE to the SIMD SSE/SSE2 trap 19, but
> 9vx expects only x87.
Ah. So that explains where the 19 came from.
I had wondered how I got that wrong. ;-)
Vx32 originally disallowed the x87 so that the
VM execution would be more deterministic,
but it was easier to turn on x87 support than
change 8c.
> i had wondered the other day whether there were AMD/Intel processors
> in common use that supported x87 but not SSE/SSE2. should 8c start
> using SSE as the plan 9 amd64 compiler does? could it support that exclusively?
I have pushed hard to keep post-386 dependencies
from creeping into the system. That's why, for example,
libthread uses locked INCL and DECL instructions
instead of the commented-out XADDL implementation
that would only work on the 486 and later.
I harbor no illusion that we've succeeded entirely, but
I do hope that if someone dug up a 386, it would not be
too much work to get it to boot and run.
Just the other day Sape and I were discussing whether
some code he was working on should add a dependency
on CMPXCHG8B (64-bit compare and swap), which was
only introduced in the Pentium. I think we decided there
is a way to avoid it in favor of the 386-supported 32-bit XCHG.
The SSE instructions were only added in the Pentium III;
SSE2 only came in with the Pentium 4.
I realize that, at this point, keeping 386 support is bordering
on retrocomputing, but it's hard to know where to draw the line.
I would be inclined to leave the 386 support as it is
and assume that people who want to take advantage of
new features will switch to the x86-64 once the port is available.
But I might just be out of touch.
Russ
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-04 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-04 8:17 Fernan Bolando
2008-07-04 9:59 ` Charles Forsyth
[not found] ` <a85d07977219d1010dd930280d4b013e@terzarima.net>
2008-07-04 14:17 ` Fernan Bolando
2008-07-04 15:54 ` Russ Cox
2008-07-04 17:19 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-04 17:21 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-04 18:04 ` Charles Forsyth
2008-07-04 18:14 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-04 19:22 ` Russ Cox [this message]
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