From: Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 and multicores/parallelism/concurrency?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:01:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080715080153.1B5B25B50@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:33:01 PDT." <1216067581.14715.45.camel@goose.sun.com>
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:33:01 PDT "Roman V. Shaposhnik" <rvs@sun.com> wrote:
> Solaris's scheduler is not shy when it comes to big iron (100+ CPU SMP
> boxes) but even it had to be heavily tuned when a Batoka box first
> came to the labs. When you have physcical threads (CPUs), virtual
> threads and a non trivial memory hierarchy -- the decision of what
> is the best place (hardware-wise) for a give thread to run becomes
> a non-trivial one. Kernels that can track affinity properly rule
> the day.
I suspect a lot of this complexity will end up being dropped
when you don't have to worry about efficiently using the last
N% of cpu cycles. When your bottleneck is memory bandwidth
using core 100% is not going to happen in general. And I am
not sure thread placement belongs in the kernel. Why not let
an application manage its allocation of h/w thread x cycle
resources? I am not even sure a full kernel belongs on every
core.
Unlike you I think the kernel should do even less as more and
more cores are added. It should basically stay out of the
way. Less government, more privatization :-) So may be
the plan9 kernel would a better starting point than a Unix
kernel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-15 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <f1209aefaab5eece7465c3d0df545ddd@quanstro.net>
2008-07-14 20:33 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-15 1:37 ` Joel C. Salomon
2008-07-15 8:01 ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2008-07-15 17:50 ` Paul Lalonde
2008-07-17 19:29 ` Bakul Shah
2008-07-18 3:31 ` Paul Lalonde
2008-07-14 16:35 erik quanstrom
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-14 8:45 ssecorp
2008-07-14 9:08 ` sqweek
2008-07-14 16:17 ` Iruata Souza
2008-07-14 16:31 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-14 10:15 ` a
2008-07-14 15:32 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-14 16:00 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-14 16:29 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-14 20:08 ` a
2008-07-14 20:39 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-14 22:12 ` a
2008-07-17 12:26 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-17 12:40 ` erik quanstrom
2008-07-17 13:00 ` ron minnich
2008-07-14 20:43 ` Charles Forsyth
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