From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] current state of thread programming
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:07:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080730180740.GA1505@polynum.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217418639.5036.31.camel@goose.sun.com>
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 04:50:39AM -0700, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 13:35 +0200, tlaronde@polynum.com wrote:
>
> > The most efficient is to have tools that match the way our brains work
> > (or not...). I'm not convinced our brains are "parallel" (at least mines
> > are not).
>
> I disagree on philosophical grounds ;-) It's been one of the major
> engineering follies to always approach design from a "just follow
> the nature" standpoint. No wonder that before the Wright brothers
> everybody thought the best way to fly is to flap some kind of wings.
When I spoke about "tools", I meant "programming tools". Computers are
already parallel, multi-task. There are already "collaborative" between
devices that have their own processing capabilities distinct from the
CPU(s); between users, or between tasks (real processes) of a same user.
But I do not believe that a programming tool could transform magically
the dumping of a programmer's brains (called a program source) and find
magically parallelism if the programmer has not thought of the thing
(primarily from the data structure point of view), since, at least for
my limited capacities, I may organize task in parallel, but I find
sequential solutions (an algorithm is defined for me as a kind of
elementary, atomic process; the organization, articulation of the
program is engineering, not algorithmics).
--
Thierry Laronde (Alceste) <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com>
http://www.kergis.com/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-30 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-28 17:11 andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-28 17:50 ` tlaronde
2008-07-28 19:52 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-07-28 21:07 ` Russ Cox
2008-07-28 21:33 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-07-29 18:40 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-29 19:12 ` Bakul Shah
2008-07-30 11:35 ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 11:50 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-30 13:50 ` Paweł Lasek
2008-07-30 17:42 ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 18:07 ` tlaronde [this message]
2008-07-30 18:17 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-30 11:58 ` Robert Raschke
2008-07-30 13:53 ` David Leimbach
2008-07-30 14:00 ` andrey mirtchovski
2008-07-30 15:35 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-07-30 16:53 ` Bakul Shah
2008-07-30 12:50 erik quanstrom
[not found] <9b1933b61c606e89a4cbbc93a4b5a204@quanstro.net>
2008-07-30 17:31 ` tlaronde
2008-07-30 18:58 ` Sape Mullender
2008-07-30 20:04 ` tlaronde
2008-08-05 10:34 Richard Maxwell Underwood
2008-08-05 15:28 ` Eris Discordia
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