From: Sam Watkins <sam@nipl.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:17:48 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091004071748.GA16895@nipl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45a41ae73e4adf6d1b38fe9c31977c52@proxima.alt.za>
I wrote:
> I don't see how this can be fixed in unix without breaking umpteen million
> shell scripts.
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 06:12:15AM +0200, lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> By creating new commands with distinct new names.
I thought of a better way. We can fix the commands without breaking
compatibility, using `--'. `--' in unix normally excludes further options.
My idea is that `--' should force multi-file mode, excluding different
behaviour in case of an empty list or a single-member list.
`--' ends options, forces consistent multi-file mode, allows empty lists
This gives the best of both worlds - existing usage is still valid, but people
can choose to use new syntax when dealing with lists of files.
It is consistent with the current meaning of `--' in unix.
Examples of new usage (using rc this time):
# wrap stdin with a header and footer
cat header - footer
fn find { du -a $* | awk '{print $2}' } # du/find are not fixed yet
# cat all C files, ok if none
cat -- `{find . | grep '\.c$'}
# same thing, with grep instead, always outputs file:matching-line
grep malloc -- `{find . | grep '\.c$'}
Down with DWIM!!
What do you think of this proposal?
Can you think of a real example where it would be incompatible?
Sam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-04 7:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-03 16:03 Sam Watkins
2009-10-03 17:01 ` Rob Pike
2009-10-03 18:31 ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-03 18:56 ` Rob Pike
2009-10-03 19:05 ` blstuart
2009-10-03 19:18 ` hiro
2009-10-03 20:31 ` Steve Simon
2009-10-05 16:08 ` John Stalker
2009-10-05 16:24 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-05 17:20 ` John Stalker
2009-10-05 19:09 ` roger peppe
2009-10-03 18:46 ` Bakul Shah
2009-10-03 19:11 ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-04 4:12 ` lucio
2009-10-04 7:17 ` Sam Watkins [this message]
2009-10-04 9:18 ` lucio
2009-10-05 6:20 ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-05 6:53 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-10-04 10:46 ` Richard Miller
2009-10-06 6:59 ` Uriel
2009-10-06 12:01 ` Jacob Todd
2009-10-06 16:35 ` [9fans] *Suspect* " W B Hacker
2009-10-04 10:59 ` [9fans] " sqweek
2009-10-05 5:54 ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-05 11:23 ` matt
2009-10-04 10:18 ` Charles Forsyth
2009-10-04 10:26 ` lucio
[not found] <<646955677faa922172207300b93ff6ea@hamnavoe.com>
2009-10-04 18:39 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] <<20091005055423.GA14691@nipl.net>
2009-10-05 13:30 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-05 16:13 ` Russ Cox
2009-10-05 19:24 ` Sam Watkins
2009-10-05 19:31 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-05 21:04 ` John Stalker
2009-10-05 22:13 ` Jason Catena
2009-10-06 10:10 ` lucio
2009-10-06 2:22 ` ron minnich
2009-10-06 4:37 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-06 4:50 ` ron minnich
2009-10-06 6:40 ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 17:45 ` Brian L. Stuart
2009-10-06 18:00 ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 18:27 ` ron minnich
2009-10-07 8:30 ` John Stalker
2009-10-07 11:05 ` roger peppe
2009-10-06 8:40 ` matt
2009-10-06 16:50 ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 17:15 ` Jason Catena
2009-10-06 17:50 ` Tim Newsham
2009-10-06 19:27 ` John Stalker
2009-10-06 20:10 ` Jason Catena
2009-10-05 21:35 ` Russ Cox
[not found] <<200910060740.aa94573@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
2009-10-06 12:59 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] <<200910070930.aa64725@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
2009-10-07 12:14 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-07 13:14 ` John Stalker
[not found] <<200910071414.aa02318@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
2009-10-07 13:36 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-07 14:02 ` W B Hacker
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