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* Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-13  6:46 Wolfgang Kunz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-13  6:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs



On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:31:19 +0100 Akshat Kumar
<akumar@mail.nanosouffle.net> wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Frederik Caulier
><aediks@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Wolfgang
>>
>> You might want to get in touch with user 'Capso' on the
>> #plan9@irc.freenode.org channel. AFAIK he is running a Ken FS
>setup.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> F. Caulier
>
>That's just me. Feel free to drop me a mail or visit IRC.
>
>I'm running the traditional Ken FS, sans Erik's mods.
>
>kfs is very different from Ken FS and I also use that on
>a standalone computer outside of the home network,
>that's too old and slow to be usable with fossil hoggin'
>up all the resources. kfs does the job finely there.

Many thanks for your answer. I am very thankfull for every
help with Ken FS.

Regards,
Wolfgang




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* Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-11 19:47 Wolfgang Kunz
  2010-01-11 20:05 ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-11 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs


On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:14:19 +0100 erik quanstrom
<quanstro@coraid.com> wrote:
>fs was removed from the cd but there's a version in
>/n/sources/extra.
>
>kfs and fs(3) are different fileservers.  you can also use the
>source in
>contrib quanstro/fs.  i run 4 fileservers (plus one for testing)
>based on this.  all but one use aoe for storage.  but you can use
>ahci or ide disks as well.  you will need to add il back into your
>kernel.  (in the contrib package.)

Many thanks for your help. I was able to compile the 9askafs kernel
and make the 9askafs.iso. The cd boots on a notebook, loads the
kernel
and then I got:

panic: no nvr
cpu 0 exiting

I think my plan9.ini is not correct ("nvr=" is missing).

I have not changed anything in the mkfile. I just do the first
steps and I am happy to come so far today.

I found these too files for the kernel (il):

il.c
ip.il.h

I hope these files are the right one for the kernel. Tomorrow I
will
look how I configure a kernel in Plan9.

Many thanks for your help!

Regards,
Wolfgang








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* Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-11 17:52 Wolfgang Kunz
  2010-01-11 18:00 ` Frederik Caulier
  2010-01-11 18:14 ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-11 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

>> After reading many mails here I plan to run a fossil only
>> fileserver. So far I understand the "Ken" dedicated fileserver
>> has gone.

>ken's fs works for me.

I am very interested in the old dedicated Ken fileserver. So
far I understand you there are ways to run Ken fileserver today?
When this is possible I would like to ask where I can find the
sources of fs or a boot disk or so on?

I found fs(4) and fs(8) in the manual. But there seems no fs in
/sys/src/fs.

There are kfs and fs(3) too. I hope I don't currently confound the
different fileserver and filesystems.

Regards,
Wolfgang







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* Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-11  8:33 Wolfgang Kunz
  2010-01-11 13:41 ` erik quanstrom
  2010-01-11 19:50 ` Federico G. Benavento
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-11  8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs


>I have an MSI G31TM-P21 + q8200
>
>
>http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=183


Nice board. I could get it for 50$. So far I can see this board has
the ICH7 chip. So AHCI is not working on this board? I am not sure
if this is important.

Thanks!

Wolfgang




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* Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-11  8:27 Wolfgang Kunz
  2010-01-11 13:01 ` Steve Simon
  2010-01-11 13:51 ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-11  8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

>I recently built a new server out of an Intel Dualcore Atom
>motherboard
>(D945GCLF2D), it needs some kernel patches from Erik to get
>everything to
>work cleanly but it is now great. I added two 500Gb SATA disks
>mirrored for storage.

Interessting idea. Do you use a fossil only configuration and
mirroring with fs(3)?

Only are that there are only too two SATA ports. No space for
extensions in the future.

Thanks

Wolfgang




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* Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-11  8:24 Wolfgang Kunz
  2010-01-11 13:39 ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-11  8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs

Hello,

>this isn't a complete list of supported ahci or marvell
>parts.  i don't know about jmicron support.  i tried
>to add it without having any hardware to test.  i have
>always chosen other hardware over jmicron.  it seems
>to benchmark poorly and be unnecessarly incompatable.
>
>i have not done systematic benchmarking of the
>various parts.  however ..
>
>1.  unless one needs more ports than the motherboard
>offers, i would stick with on-board ports.

That makes sense for me. Perhaps I could save money and
use the onboard network chip too (most RELTEK)? Then I
could invest more money in the board and the CPU.

>2.  note that the marvell 88sx card is pci-x but will
>function properly in a pci slot.  the marvell 88se64*
>parts are a pci-e option.

I saw that this cards are really expensive. As you said
the onboard controller are a better choise.

>3.  if you set up a venti+fossil fileserver, you will have
>a quite seeky load and the performance of the controller
>should not be a big factor.  but the performance of the
>disks will be.

After reading many mails here I plan to run a fossil only
fileserver. So far I understand the "Ken" dedicated fileserver
has gone.

So disks >= 7200 u/min are ok?

>> For network cards the intel gbe cards seems to be the best?
>
>yes.  the 82563 and 8257[12456] are particularly good.

I could get a 82574L (PCIe) (Desktop pro CT - EXPI9301CT) for 30$.
Would this be a good buy?

Regards,

Wolfgang




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* [9fans] Hardware for Plan9
@ 2010-01-10 13:39 Wolfgang Kunz
  2010-01-10 14:06 ` Steve Simon
  2010-01-10 15:59 ` erik quanstrom
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Kunz @ 2010-01-10 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Hi,

I am new to Plan9. After testing Plan9 in Xen on NetBSD I want to
create a native Plan9 fileserver on it's own hardware. I would like
to
ask about the recommended hardware for doing that? The fileserver
is
for about 5 users and 500 GB of data.

Which disk controller should I use for best performance and
driver support?

AHCI based:
SB600
IHC9
Jmicron JMB363 (supported?)

Marvel based:
Marvell 88SX6081

For network cards the intel gbe cards seems to be the best?

Which CPU should I use? Can Plan9 use multicore processors?
Is it right that Plan9 runs in 32 bit modus (no need for a 64 bit
processor)?

How much memory should I put in the fileserver maschine?

If possible I would like to ask which hardware the other Plan9 user
are using.

Regards,
Wolfgang




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* [9fans] Hardware for plan9
@ 2004-02-16 15:11 Ryan
  2004-02-16 15:39 ` matt
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Ryan @ 2004-02-16 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

Hey,

I'm looking to set up a plan9 box.  Yes, just one.

I'd like to build a cheap system that I am pretty sure will not cause
me too many hassles just trying to set it up.  Recommendations? 
Motherboard, processor, video card, hard drive?  IT'd be nice to get
to learn about good namespaces instead of trying to make DMA go or
some such.

Thanks,
Ryan


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2010-01-11 20:31   ` Akshat Kumar
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2010-01-11 13:51 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-11 16:43   ` Steve Simon
2010-01-11 17:26     ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-11  8:24 Wolfgang Kunz
2010-01-11 13:39 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-10 13:39 Wolfgang Kunz
2010-01-10 14:06 ` Steve Simon
2010-01-10 15:59 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-10 16:14   ` Federico G. Benavento
2004-02-16 15:11 [9fans] Hardware for plan9 Ryan
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