From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Stalker To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: <13426df11001221238x6adeb84aida7d4c6d410855a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <6a3ae47e1001220944v34a952ebv23388e2aaab247a1@mail.gmail.com> <4B59E982.1080009@comfortstore.net> <20100122181931.GA5971@wyrm.eecs.umich.edu> <13426df11001221042l69c06a27q25e5d8d803cb90f4@mail.gmail.com> <201001221937.aa83108@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <201001222023.aa02096@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <13426df11001221238x6adeb84aida7d4c6d410855a9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <487.1264194710.1@kryten-en0.lany63.cz> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:11:50 +0000 Message-ID: <201001222111.aa19707@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Subject: Re: [9fans] find command reloaded Topicbox-Message-UUID: c3ef56b8-ead5-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > interesting. OK, my idea sucks due to a lack of foresight on my part :-) Your idea is fine. I do similar things all the time, but using awk or sed or things like that to produce shell scripts is hard to get right. Harder than getting a find command right, which was my point. I'll grant that life is easier if the shell you're piping to is /bin/rc than /bin/sh. > So far, given the complexity of all the alternatives, I'm sticking > with my grep -r. Yeah, it's gross to special-case something, but > sometimes a special case has more use than a general case. That's fine for Rudolf's situation, but most of my find commands end in -delete. > But, hey, if you don't like my idea don't use it. No feelings will be > harmed; after all, I've only got one real user for smacme and it's not > me :-) I actually like your idea better than any of the others that were suggested except for the idea of a native version of find. > And if you like find, write and put it in contrib. I'll put it on my to do list. But things often stay on that list for a long time. :-( > I don't understand all the concern about whether this or that tool > ends up in the "official" tree, or who is resistant to it. Plan 9 is a > distributed OS. Roll your own tree. put it on bitbucket. Add all the > stuff you think should be there. Maybe others will like it too. In the > 70s just about every university had a Unix distro ... harvard, jhu, on > and on ... it was only in the 80s that BSD became the choice item. > With the tools we have today it's pretty easy to fork something. Who > knows, you might pull a BSD :-) We had one here at TCD, though that was well before my time. These days all the servers run FreeBSD. Although I like plan9, I don't think it's likely to get installed on those servers any time soon. > ron -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282