From: Corey <corey@bitworthy.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:20:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003291720.32633.corey@bitworthy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34cb9c5c75eebb8db65b0d7da5b0cbe1@ladd.quanstro.net>
On Monday 29 March 2010 14:09:32 erik quanstrom wrote:
> > Day to day computer work will not generally be done on a Plan9 terminal
> > until Glenda finally overcomes her profoundly crippling case of
> > automysophobia.
> >
<snip>
>
> unless you're going to do something about this, you're just
> trolling.
>
(c8=
Heheh... when it's critical of other existing projects and systems -
which goes on all the time here - it's o.k.; but when it's critical of
plan 9, it's known as 'trolling'.
<wink>
> i find plan 9 to be a very effective environment. i use it
> all day, every day.
>
> if you don't, the logical choices are to (a) do something about
> it or (b) do something else.
>
In any given social environment, communicating dissatisfaction of
the status quo is often the logical first step towards choices (a)
and/or (b) - due to the fact that going off on one's own to work
alone in a vacuum on a major undertaking is generally recognized
as an inherently ill-fated strategy.
> imho, it just doesn't make sense to add this kind of stuff
> to plan 9. it dimishes something very valuable in plan 9
> (simplicity) and we already know where to get gnu stuff.
>
Understood, and appreciated.
I guess the situation is that there appears to be plenty of people who
_imagine_ something "very valuable" in seeing the base Plan 9 concepts
and idioms being applied within a different context beyond that of
rigorous 'radical purity and simplicity' - yet after 15 years, there still is
no experimental general purpose Plan 9 distributions/projects under way.
Is it that the core Plan 9 design concepts[1] are in fact inappropriate or
uninteresting for anything beyond that which Plan 9 currently provides?
The answer continues to blow in the wind.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs#Design_concepts
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Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-21 21:33 [9fans] using acme/Mail from plan9port in Linux Lorenzo Bolla
2009-11-21 22:27 ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2009-12-17 7:48 ` Jason Catena
2010-03-23 11:18 ` hugo rivera
2010-03-23 13:02 ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2010-03-23 13:27 ` hugo rivera
2010-03-23 13:37 ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2010-03-23 14:29 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-23 15:13 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-23 15:41 ` David Leimbach
2010-03-23 16:10 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-23 16:41 ` Russ Cox
2010-03-23 17:02 ` hugo rivera
2010-03-23 19:47 ` Russ Cox
2010-03-24 9:50 ` [9fans] VIA Rhine II support? EBo
2010-03-24 10:24 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-25 18:56 ` Harri Haataja
2010-03-25 19:08 ` EBo
2010-03-24 9:59 ` [9fans] native install EBo
2010-03-24 14:56 ` David Leimbach
2010-03-24 15:17 ` Richard Miller
2010-03-24 15:22 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-03-24 16:00 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-24 16:05 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-24 19:18 ` Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
2010-03-24 19:48 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-24 20:17 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-03-24 21:49 ` David du Colombier
2010-04-09 19:36 ` Tom West
2010-04-09 20:20 ` EBo
2010-04-10 2:26 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-10 9:21 ` Gabriel Diaz
2010-04-10 12:54 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-10 16:28 ` Gabriel Diaz
2010-04-10 19:38 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-11 12:37 ` Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
2010-04-11 15:36 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-11 15:37 ` Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
2010-04-11 15:40 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-24 20:11 ` EBo
2010-03-24 20:19 ` John Floren
2010-03-24 20:41 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-25 1:21 ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-25 1:35 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-25 11:15 ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-25 13:25 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-25 10:28 ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-25 15:43 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-25 13:37 ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-25 18:58 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-25 20:04 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-25 22:34 ` Jorden Mauro
2010-03-26 6:00 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-25 14:10 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-25 1:52 ` Maht
2010-03-25 2:05 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-03-24 22:34 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2010-03-24 15:23 ` andrey mirtchovski
2010-03-28 14:32 ` Georg Lehner
2010-03-28 14:39 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-29 19:57 ` Georg Lehner
2010-03-29 20:21 ` michael block
2010-03-28 14:44 ` maht
2010-03-29 20:07 ` Georg Lehner
2010-03-29 20:16 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-29 22:38 ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-29 20:52 ` maht
2010-03-29 20:58 ` Corey
2010-03-29 20:57 ` ron minnich
2010-03-29 21:09 ` erik quanstrom
2010-03-30 0:20 ` Corey [this message]
2010-03-30 0:24 ` [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install) erik quanstrom
2010-03-30 1:21 ` Corey
2010-03-30 2:02 ` Iruata Souza
2010-03-30 2:07 ` Jacob Todd
2010-03-30 6:41 ` Corey
2010-03-30 2:17 ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-30 3:10 ` Rahul Murmuria
2010-03-30 18:23 ` Jack Johnson
2010-03-30 18:25 ` Jack Johnson
2010-03-30 18:44 ` Patrick Kelly
2010-04-01 10:13 ` [9fans] Plan ? William Cowan
2010-03-30 9:28 ` [9fans] Plan ? (was: native install) Steve Simon
2010-03-30 10:19 ` hugo rivera
2010-03-30 10:33 ` Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave
2010-03-30 10:40 ` hugo rivera
2010-03-30 11:40 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2010-03-30 12:20 ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-30 12:34 ` Steve Simon
2010-03-30 13:28 ` tlaronde
2010-03-30 13:45 ` Patrick Kelly
2010-03-30 17:07 ` Albert Skye
2010-03-30 17:13 ` David Leimbach
2010-03-30 18:09 ` Nick LaForge
2010-03-30 18:03 ` tlaronde
2010-03-30 2:11 ` Iruata Souza
2010-04-07 22:52 ` [9fans] bootiso.s fixed cinap_lenrek
2010-04-08 0:08 ` ron minnich
2010-04-08 15:04 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-08 1:14 ` Iruata Souza
2010-04-08 14:29 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-08 15:05 ` David Leimbach
2010-04-08 19:18 ` Jorden M
2010-04-08 18:11 ` ron minnich
2010-04-08 18:17 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-08 18:28 ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-04-08 19:05 ` ron minnich
2010-04-08 19:07 ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-08 19:36 ` cinap_lenrek
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