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From: Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] BUG!!! in Plan9 compiler!
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:59:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100424185913.9A9CC5B42@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:34:56 EDT." <5a6d0c09e489554087dcb101dd96e727@coraid.com>

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:34:56 EDT erik quanstrom <quanstro@labs.coraid.com>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Bakul Shah <bakul+plan9@bitblocks.com> wro
> te:
> >
> > >
> > > If so, I consider it a bug; particularly as there is no
> > > overflow involved anywhere.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > r1 2147482110 r2 -1537
>
> on arm the difference is interesting.  the first
> / is translated:
> 	main+0x20 0x00001040	MOVW	(R4>>1),R4
> and the second:
> 	main+0x34 0x00001054	ADD.MI	$#0x1,R2,R2
> 	main+0x38 0x00001058	MOVW	(R2->1),R2
>
> (5c -S has it SRL and SRA, respectively.)
> if we are unsigned preserving, wouldn't this make sense, since
> (x + y + z) is an unsigned expression but (x + y) is not.

It is clear that there is no one *right* answer for how mixed
signed/unsigned number operations should be treated but c89
rules do seem a bit more sensible to me as they avoid
surprises like (x + y + 0u)/z being different from (x + y)/z,
where x,y,z are signed ints.

Is this behaviour really useful for anything? Is there
anything in plan9 code that relies on this behaviour in a
critical way? I suspect this rule can be changed without
impacting plan 9 code much (which as a rule is of much higher
quality than most open source code) and we already know
programs ported to p9p work fine.

Anyway, I think I've said all I want to on this topic!
Probably more than.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-24 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-22 15:29 tlaronde
2010-04-22 17:03 ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-22 17:36   ` tlaronde
2010-04-22 17:50     ` tlaronde
2010-04-22 19:08       ` geoff
2010-04-22 19:32         ` tlaronde
2010-04-22 20:07           ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-22 21:15             ` tlaronde
2010-04-22 21:26               ` tlaronde
2010-04-22 22:49               ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-23  7:42                 ` tlaronde
2010-04-23 18:53                 ` C H Forsyth
2010-04-23 18:51                   ` tlaronde
2010-04-23 20:08                   ` Bakul Shah
2010-04-23 20:46                     ` ron minnich
2010-04-23 21:44                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-23 22:34                       ` erik quanstrom
2010-04-24 18:59                         ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2010-04-24 21:47                           ` Charles Forsyth
2010-04-25  0:31                           ` erik quanstrom

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