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From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] du and find
Date: Mon,  3 May 2010 14:49:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100503124917.GA13342@polynum.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b9d075d78bffec46a2bb93328b803074@iram.fr>

On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 02:26:07PM +0200, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote:
> No idea, probably none.
>
> that would not be the interesting point, if any.  it's just that the
> tool is already there and (should be) simpler to use than piping
> various commands around, as they illustrate below.

> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 05:18:56 -0700
> From: Akshat Kumar <akumar@mail.nanosouffle.net>
> Subject: Re: [9fans] du and find
> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
>
> >From the website:
>
> "ack is written purely in Perl, and takes advantage
> of the power of Perl's regular expressions."
>
> Forgive my ignorance and irrelevance to this topic,
> but what are the advantages of Perl's regular
> expressions, over the implementation we have
> currently in Plan 9?

I had in fact the answer, a long time ago: because they simply do not
know that ed(1) exists, and sed(1) etc.

A group, providing an ISDN router based on Debian, was requiring a lot
of memory and disk space. I asked why??? that much for _that_?!! The
answer: we need perl(1) installed. But what for? Answer: to replace
@@GATEWAY@@ and so on by customized values in a file... (They didn't
even thought of building a distribution on a vulcan to simply install on
the target.)

They didn't know about ed(1). So I tell them regexp were ed(1); and
ed(1) was required by POSIX.2. And tried to make the demonstration... to
see that Debian didn't provide ed(1) by default. I ask Debian, why the
f...?!!? Answer: GNU's Not Unix...

And this day I realized I was not GNU. And switch to *BSD before asking
myself some questions that lead me to Plan9...
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-03 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-28 23:05 anonymous
2009-12-28 23:09 ` lucio
2009-12-28 23:14 ` Steve Simon
2009-12-29 17:59 ` Tim Newsham
2009-12-29 18:28   ` Don Bailey
2009-12-29 20:16   ` Rob Pike
2009-12-30  7:44     ` anonymous
2010-05-03 12:13   ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2010-05-03 12:18     ` Akshat Kumar
2010-05-03 12:26       ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2010-05-03 12:49         ` tlaronde [this message]
2010-05-03 13:10         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-03 13:41           ` Steve Simon
2010-05-03 15:18             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-03 15:29               ` jake
2010-05-03 15:46                 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-03 15:37               ` Steve Simon
2010-05-03 13:17       ` Rudolf Sykora
2010-05-03 14:53         ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-03 18:34           ` Jorden M
2010-05-04 10:01             ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-04 10:29               ` Robert Raschke
2010-05-04 15:38               ` Jorden M
2010-05-04 16:56                 ` Gabriel Díaz
2010-05-04 18:39                   ` Karljurgen Feuerherm
2010-05-03 14:03     ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<20091228230510.GA25423@machine>
2009-12-28 23:25 ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-28 23:31   ` Don Bailey
2009-12-28 23:50     ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
     [not found] <<68eb39920912281531jd0e4661j56adfc589a370dfc@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-28 23:35 ` erik quanstrom
2009-12-28 23:39   ` Don Bailey
2009-12-29  1:00     ` anonymous
2009-12-29  1:13       ` Don Bailey
2009-12-29  0:41 erik quanstrom
2009-12-29  1:03 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
2010-01-01 20:34 ` roger peppe
     [not found] <<af7cc2a5be1668a4f2cb708f5bd96f67@yyc.orthanc.ca>
2009-12-29  1:22 ` erik quanstrom
     [not found] <<df49a7371001011234r3aaaf961n8ce253a6681e74b1@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02  0:51 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-02  1:44   ` roger peppe
     [not found] <<df49a7371001011744o6687fd59l451d690ea56edea5@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02  2:02 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-02  5:29   ` anonymous
2010-01-02 18:43   ` roger peppe
2010-01-03  2:28     ` Anthony Sorace
     [not found] <<20100102052943.GA9871@machine>
2010-01-02 17:05 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-02 18:18   ` anonymous
     [not found] <<df49a7371001021043p2a990207od65457a068b7828@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-02 19:47 ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-02 23:21   ` Bakul Shah
2010-01-03  1:49     ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-03  2:31       ` Bakul Shah
2010-01-03  2:40         ` erik quanstrom
2010-01-06 20:44           ` Akshat Kumar

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