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From: dexen deVries <dexen.devries@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] files vs. directories
Date: Thu,  3 Feb 2011 23:33:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201102032333.18353.dexen.devries@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86aaidkli8.fsf@cmarib.ramside>

On Thursday 03 of February 2011 19:42:39 smiley@zenzebra.mv.com wrote:
> dexen deVries <dexen.devries@gmail.com> writes:
> >> oh yes, maintaining the usual semantics for cp becomes tricky.
> >>
> >> mkdir z
> >> cp x.c z
> >>
> >> do i mean to write x.c to z itself, or to a new file within z?
> >
> > nb., with the current semantics you *could* say `cp x.c z/' to be
> > unambiguous you want to create a child of `z', but it seems to be common
> > not to use trailing slash unless 100% necessary.
>
> dexen hits the nail on the head right there... files and directories
> could be contextually distinguished from each other by always specifying
> the directory name with a trailing "/".
>
> "foo.c/" means the directory foo.c/.
>
> "foo.c"  means the file ./foo.c
>
> There's no way that I know of to possibly interperet a path ending in
> "/" as a file (with the exception of reading raw Dir data, as on Plan
> 9 or "cat /" on, what was it, Solaris?).


I refuse to be signed under that idea. Really, I hate that idea.

The trailing slash could only be for cp(1)'s interpretation of second argument
-- it literally could mean, ``append the first argument's last component''. To
have it a system-wide policy is overkill. It's only the small optimization
done by cp(1) -- that is, it automagically appends first argument's last
component to the last argument -- that makes this distinction sensible in some
cases.

tl;dr version:
Hell no.

--
dexen deVries

``One can't proceed from the informal to the formal by formal means.''



  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-03 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-03 11:45 dexen deVries
2011-02-03 13:05 ` erik quanstrom
2011-02-03 13:40   ` dexen deVries
2011-02-03 13:59     ` erik quanstrom
2011-02-03 13:36 ` roger peppe
2011-02-03 13:40   ` erik quanstrom
2011-02-03 13:44   ` dexen deVries
2011-02-03 14:15     ` roger peppe
2011-02-03 14:27       ` dexen deVries
2011-02-03 18:42         ` smiley
2011-02-03 22:33           ` dexen deVries [this message]
2011-02-04  1:42           ` Robert Ransom
2011-02-04  1:49             ` erik quanstrom
2011-02-04  3:30               ` Robert Ransom
2011-02-04  4:11                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2011-02-04  4:17                   ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-02-04  5:36                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-02-03 14:35       ` dexen deVries
2011-02-03 16:58 ` Bakul Shah
2011-02-03 23:13   ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2011-02-04  0:24     ` smiley
2011-02-04  0:45       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-02-04  1:29         ` Nick LaForge
2011-02-04 18:26 Lucio De Re
2011-02-04 18:28 Lucio De Re
2011-02-04 18:31 Lucio De Re
2011-02-04 18:41 ` Lucio De Re
2011-08-21 17:33 ` Enrico Weigelt
2011-02-04 18:38 Lucio De Re

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